RADIO ANORAKS "LEGAL" RADIO BOARD LATE 2001

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radio anoraks chat room? pullmyfinger 4 169 15/10/2001 19:04:39

by: coo coo kachoo

NEWSTALK 106 BACK ON THE AGENDA! JAMESDEANE 2 210 15/10/2001 00:03:48

by: Radio Mad

What makes a good jock djr 5 237 14/10/2001 10:25:58

by: Radio Presenter

Reclaim Thy Name My Son rich man 0 115 12/10/2001 16:06:20

by: rich man

FF Handpick Media coverage again! Real Listener 0 85 12/10/2001 11:52:16

by: Real Listener

RTE course Sarah Baybay 12 338 12/10/2001 00:14:59

by: Sarah Baybay

The BCI is the organisation of the future! North West Listener 3 137 11/10/2001 23:59:25

by: Sarah Baybay

Rob G on 104 coo coo kachoo 1 222 10/10/2001 07:59:22

by: Dr Don

 

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New IRTC/BCI rules on ownership/readvertisement Mister807 3 167 24/10/2001 21:03:23

by: Irish Mike

Ballyfermot / Dun Laoghaire - New Term 1 2

ScottB 19 484 23/10/2001 17:35:44

by: ScottB

on the grapevine Krispo 3 287 21/10/2001 21:07:40

by: jryan

Mark Byrne!!! Pilots Pal 4 365 20/10/2001 21:02:29

by: Radio Presenter

Its all wrong Radiofriend 0 135 20/10/2001 03:36:14

by: Radiofriend

Simon Young lights out 4 214 19/10/2001 21:48:05

by: fmfreddie

Another Legal Farce For Mid-Ulster thepresident 0 62 19/10/2001 21:04:24

by: thepresident

bci ownership policy luther arkwright 0 59 19/10/2001 00:02:19

by: luther arkwright

NEWSFLASH - Netradio.com goes bang!! The Real Stuttering John 0 62 18/10/2001 20:30:52

by: The Real Stuttering John

Ceasar Basic 1 72 18/10/2001 02:31:20

by: Pumping Tonight

Dublin's Country Radio Presenter 3 348 16/10/2001 20:24:26

by: The Real Stuttering John

rush limbaugh luther arkwright 0 72 16/10/2001 00:37:26

by: luther arkwright

Debbie Allen's in FHM! And so is Una Power! Johnny C 12 462 15/10/2001 19:29:27

by: DeargDoom

INTERNET RADIO STATIONS IN IRELAND N AND SOUTH djmac 0 37 15/10/2001 19:20:18

by: djmac

nighttime radio Dr Don 4 331 15/10/2001 19:09:26

by: coo coo kachoo

 

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Fm 104 Dr Don 6 251 09/11/2001 10:07:51

by: Dr Don

censorship and the lack of posting Dr Don 1 101 08/11/2001 21:19:46

by: DJ Sweetie

Yawn aphextwin 4 126 08/11/2001 12:45:05

by: JAMESDEANE

interesting to read...... The Real Stuttering John 1 246 05/11/2001 20:27:48

by: pulse-8

CUHFM in Cork move frequency rebeldude 0 48 05/11/2001 10:28:30

by: rebeldude

ATLANTIC 252 1 2 3

DeargDoom 39 1338 05/11/2001 04:33:39

by: larwright

Howard Stern pullmyfinger 10 408 04/11/2001 01:54:09

by: OTG

When will A252 change format? aphextwin 2 110 03/11/2001 11:28:41

by: Padmund

where's the King gone? Irelands PD 0 111 03/11/2001 01:21:19

by: Irelands PD

RTE RADIO 1 (Thoughts Anyone) Sid_Snott007 1 125 31/10/2001 23:53:01

by: Radio Mad

Atlantic 252 to go All Sport. Radio Mad 3 242 31/10/2001 17:07:14

by: Sid_Snott007

FAO Choice C/Bar mr_techno 0 86 30/10/2001 12:35:18

by: mr_techno

NEWSTALK?->WHATS THE STORY? JAMESDEANE 4 204 27/10/2001 09:46:15

by: Radio Presenter

IRAradio.com to stop fearing FBI The Real Stuttering John 0 92 26/10/2001 21:49:57

by: The Real Stuttering John

CD`s 1 2

lights out 16 414 26/10/2001 08:23:01

by: Dr Don

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tom dunne - today fm lights out 2 157 20/11/2001 14:37:23

by: lights out

Kiss 103FM re-union JJ McKayy 1 101 19/11/2001 19:40:25

by: The Real Stuttering John

Dj Personal Sites Radiofriend 1 208 19/11/2001 15:53:32

by: Hack

TALK RADIO Dr Don 14 263 19/11/2001 13:49:19

by: JAMESDEANE

Colm Hayes Dr Don 5 301 19/11/2001 10:04:42

by: Hack

Radio Awards Marky 1 189 19/11/2001 10:02:58

by: Hack

Dublin Country Dr Don 1 139 17/11/2001 00:15:00

by: Irish Mike

past/present atlantic 252 Irish Jocks lights out 5 280 15/11/2001 22:24:58

by: fmfreddie

Community Radio Theinsider 0 58 15/11/2001 15:27:28

by: Theinsider

FM104 1 2

breeze 18 750 15/11/2001 03:00:57

by: pullmyfinger

Today FM Radio Presenter 0 83 14/11/2001 23:36:33

by: Radio Presenter

FALL-OFF IN COMMENTS AND QUALITY JAMESDEANE 9 285 12/11/2001 11:42:16

by: JAMESDEANE

******FM104 IS THERE A PROBLEM******** Sid_Snott007 1 145 10/11/2001 13:04:43

by: fmfreddie

Thread subjects Radio Presenter 0 43 10/11/2001 11:23:05

by: Radio Presenter

Friends on the inside Sid_Snott007 9 494 09/11/2001 18:11:30

by: Sherman die pole

 

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john o'hara/252 lights out 2 304 18/12/2001 12:10:48

by: Basic

Board performance Admin 0 95 17/12/2001 01:29:28

by: Admin

Red-hot fm lefthander 9 936 16/12/2001 15:55:19

by: kenn1210

The BCI is powerless Dr Don 6 378 11/12/2001 11:47:19

by: JAMESDEANE

Predictions for 2002 in Radio. fmfreddie 1 324 09/12/2001 21:55:25

by: 106 listener

irish radio at the moment Ian VanDahl 1 172 08/12/2001 23:26:54

by: paul_long

Who are your favourite UK radio DJs ever and why? pullmyfinger 0 93 06/12/2001 14:23:06

by: pullmyfinger

News on Expression of Interests aphextwin 0 122 05/12/2001 23:39:53

by: aphextwin

Greg Gaughran- some anorak gold! Irelands PD 0 166 05/12/2001 02:40:55

by: Irelands PD

DEBBIE ALLEN Dr Don 7 252 30/11/2001 01:00:42

by: squod

WORST SCHEDULE Dr Don 2 247 27/11/2001 18:26:23

by: Sid_Snott007

Is this a bad time? ScottB 0 111 23/11/2001 16:36:26

by: ScottB

DeargDoom Radiofriend 0 110 22/11/2001 03:44:22

by: Radiofriend

Beyer goes black pullmyfinger 6 123 21/11/2001 23:47:17

by: fmfreddie

Gerry Ryan Rumours?? lights out 3 245 21/11/2001 23:42:36

by: fmfreddie

 

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Cork 96/103 programmes Justin Speck 0 19 07/01/2002 17:57:46

by: Justin Speck

RedFM 104.5-106.1 Cork, transmitters now on test F3E 6 291 06/01/2002 20:10:35

by: Justin Speck

Highland website Justin Speck 3 139 06/01/2002 16:37:37

by: DeargDoom

When is Red FM due to "hit" the airwaves? Tangerine Dream 2 185 03/01/2002 16:34:18

by: Stevie Zodiac

Atlantic 252 this evening...... 1 2

fmfreddie 17 453 02/01/2002 04:13:27

by: Enterprise

Atlantic Tribute CD - available soon Atlantic 252 2 121 02/01/2002 04:08:38

by: Enterprise

Use of 252 LW Under Question Radio Mad 2 86 02/01/2002 04:06:59

by: Enterprise

Save your passwords in mobile phone! Irelands PD 5 177 01/01/2002 17:47:29

by: Sarah Baybay

The Sky digi box radio station menu? fmfreddie 4 245 01/01/2002 17:18:29

by: fmfreddie

Your New Year's Wish List Radio Mad 0 46 31/12/2001 12:39:21

by: Radio Mad

Red fm ...the line up!! kenn1210 2 232 31/12/2001 01:06:49

by: Irelands PD

..."Another year over and a new one just begun" Irish Mike 5 144 30/12/2001 12:09:46

by: The Real Stuttering John

FM104 - the new PD 1 2

Dr Don 28 1538 23/12/2001 00:16:42

by: DeargDoom

spin programme director tuneinturnon 9 745 21/12/2001 02:26:40

by: squod

BARRY DUNNE

 

 

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coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 09/10/2001 : 12:32:26

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It seems not so long ago this young fella was on a dance pirate and today Rob is in for Andy Preston on the mid morning. He's sounding well. Comments?

Dr Don

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Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 10/10/2001 : 07:59:22

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COULDN'T AGREE MORE, ROB HAS ALL THE INDICATIONS OF BEING A TOP JCOK, ALTHOUGH IF I HAD ONE CRITICISM ITS THAT HE NEEDS TO WALK BEFORE HE CAN RUN.

HE'S FUNNY BUT NOT AS FUNNY AS HE THINKS BUT IF HE REELS BACK IN HIS TENDENCEY TO OPEN GOB BEFORE ENGAGING BRAIN HE'LL BE GREAT.

MARKS OUT OF TEN : 7

PREDICTION : A BIT LIKE STEPHEN GERRARD AT LIVERPOOL, CAN GO ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP IF HE STAYS FOCUSED.

 

 

RTE course New Topic Reply to Topic

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Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 06/10/2001 : 17:26:39

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Just wondering if any1 else is doing the broadcasting course in RTE which starts this wednesday????

 

ScottB

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Ireland

20 Posts Posted - 07/10/2001 : 01:13:02

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How did you get into this course? Where did you hear about it? There isn't any mention of it on the website? I have enquired on one before to RTE and was told that none existed?!?

Cheers,

Scott B

Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 07/10/2001 : 01:57:15

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theres a college in Parnell sq running the course which is being held out in RTE. Its everything to do with radio and TV broadcasting so when i saw it i jumped at the opportunity!

It was a matter of first come first served (and i managed to get there first day of reg!)

MrRolo

Starting Member

6 Posts Posted - 07/10/2001 : 17:04:14

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hiya sarah,

is this the course run by an RTE producer Bill something or other and not RTE? From what i heard(if it is that course) a part of the course takes part in the RTE studios (being shown around and how things work) - what qualifications do you get on completion and what are the costs?

I wasn't aware RTE ran courses... anybody know different?

Sarah Baybay

Starting Member

Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 07/10/2001 : 17:46:21

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hiya,

not sure about this Bill guy being involved, but its a college running tha course not just an individual. All of the course takes place in RTE (its only a night course once a week till xmas) but its involves not only seeing how everything works etc but also theres 2 projects to produce a radio and TV show so it sounds interesting!

There's no qualifications, its more like a general introduction for ppl like me who hasn't worked in a professional studio enviroment before!

So i'm quite sure most of yee would find it basic and boring!

mod2

Moderator

Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 07/10/2001 : 19:13:25

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The Bill you are referring to is RTE producer Bil Keating whos runs courses for people interested in pursuing a career in TV. The courses are conducted in association with Kairos Communications, RTE and Maynooth College. From what I know Bil Keatings courses are very hard to get on to and you must have some experience in the industry before you begin.

Mod2

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Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 00:38:48

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Well as much as i'd luv to say yep thats the course ... and that Ooooh i must be fantastically tallented and all that to have gotten in, i can't .......

It's a college in Parnell Sq (can't remember the name sorry!) and there was no experience test or screening process at all (so any muppet could have applied!!)

and no ....... I'm not a muppet!

MrRolo

Starting Member

 

6 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 00:53:19

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fair play sarah,

good luck with the course - it sounds v. interesting, as for basic and boring... nahhh have fun, it's what it's all about!

Sarah Baybay

Starting Member

Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 00:57:58

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Cheerz Rolo

i'll let yee all know how it goes!

Darren B

Starting Member

 

7 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 15:51:34

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Sarah, can you email me on the details on the course, and let me know if there will be another one after Christmas.

Let me know how the course goes and good luck of course

Sarah Baybay

Starting Member

Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 09/10/2001 : 18:40:38

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Daz i'll talk to u later if ur going,if not i'll mail ya later this week k?

Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 00:14:59

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soz Daz 2 lazy to go lookin 4 ur email addy!

was very interesting, just basically explaining tha history of RTE and exactly what goes on! also just about what is in tha comming weeks!

WOW i managed to find tha place witout gittin lost

as for another course? not likely .... they only run 1 a year ... seems like i was just lucky

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Real Listener

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5 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 11:52:16

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Saw this in The Irish Times today:-

A select number of radio presenters were invited to Government Buildings for a briefing on the proposed abortion legislation, the day after the Government revealed its plan to hold a referendum on the issue next year.

RTÉ's Áine Lawlor, David Hanly, Sean O'Rourke and Ryan Tubridy, as well as Today FM's Sam Smyth attended the briefing, which was given by the Minister for Health, Micheál Martin, the Attorney General, Michael McDowell and a number of senior Government officials. The briefing took the form of a presentation of the proposed legislation by the Government team, followed by questions from the assembled presenters.

Acknowledging this was an unusual step, a Government spokesperson said it was nothing more than a factual briefing for presenters who run frontline shows.

 

 

Reclaim Thy Name My Son New Topic Reply to Topic

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rich man

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Ireland

1 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 16:06:20

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If a man had a name, maybe the name he was born with, and he used that name on air for many years on many medium to large stations including Dublin ones, and while he was working away from Dublin on another local station a young man arrived on the air and adopted a derivitive of this name. This same young man then **** up from local radio and went fourth to "The National Pop Music Broadcaster" and brought his borrowed handle with him . Now the origional man who origionaly had the name that he was born with moved to a station to compete in this market and behold the "WISE" men (of marketing no doubt) were justly concerned that if two gentlemen were to appear in the market with similar sounding names, the audience my be confused and what's more the reputation of one of these gentlemen may tarnish that of the other.

The question is:- What's in a name like Rick O'Shea? And just in case, can anyone think of any good ones unlike Randy Bishop, Phillip McGlass, Myles Long and Mickey Power etc.

 

Edited by - rich man on 22/10/2001 12:48:23

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djr

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Ireland

5 Posts Posted - 11/10/2001 : 00:11:38

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Anyone like to share their opinion on that one.

DJR

coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 11/10/2001 : 04:03:19

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Timing. Ryhthm (sp?). A sharp sense of humour. Production acumen. An understandable voice with good syntax, and that's just for starters. More tomorrow.

djr

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Ireland

5 Posts Posted - 11/10/2001 : 21:27:22

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Can you give an example from someone who is on Air, not a who is the best jock but what are the best qualities of each jock that could be blended together.

I think Mark Byrne had a very relaxed style for an AC format (BTW is he still with 98).

I like Dusty's production is good but I think he has too many people trying copy his DJ style, and while I am at it my other pet hate is Radio jocks that think they are at a disco.

DJR

Irish Mike

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 11/10/2001 : 23:41:08

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That's a tricky question, it's like asking what the best flavour of ice cream is - everyone has their own opinion. For me the key is engaging, I don't think a jock has to be funny to be good. As long as what they're saying is interesting I'll listen. Another myth is that you have to be "slick and tight". The only people who notice if you nail a vocal are other jocks. Desperately trying to talk up to vocals leads to two things 1. Jocks waffeling on about nothing just to fill the 20 second intro, and 2. Jocks crashing the vocal and annoying the listener by talking over their favourite song.

When Rock 104 was in it's "we never talk over the songs" phase 98fm did some research to see what people really thought about it. The really interesting thing was their definition of "talking over the songs". To the listener it means talking over the vocals at the start or over the last minute or so at the end.

One of the key elements to success is relatability. Listeners will develop an affinity with presenters if the can relate to them and think of them not just as a voice on the radio but as a real person.

The best answer to the what makes a good jock question I've heard came from Charlie Wolf who said "The trick is to be an interesting person off air and be yourself on air".

That sums it up for me.

Irelands PD

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11 Posts Posted - 14/10/2001 : 04:59:28

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Have to say Mike, agree with ye totally. There's no two ways about it, you obviously are a legal jock cause a general 'punter' response or wannabe reply would be that of the first reply to DJR's post. I was always told to imagine someone at the other side of the mic, talk TO the listeners NOT AT THEM! I think if you imagine you're tellin your mate a story down at your local, jockin' should be roughly the same idea. I would also definitly agree with the concept of you don't have to be slick or funny or both. Dusty Rhodes is a terrific example- he IS both. Tony Fenton is so tight, words can't describe! He is a fantastic jock BUT you'll never hear him try or crack a joke on air. He's not that type of jock. Same with Brian McColl on 98, he is funny but Mark Byrne concentrates on being slick. Greg Gaughran was funny in an intelligent kind of way- he'd be funnier if you were male and educated.

Best advice I could give is to be yourself but don't be afraid to use other jocks ideas if ye wanna try to base your own original ideas incorporating theirs...

Radio Presenter

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Ireland

30 Posts Posted - 14/10/2001 : 10:25:58

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What makes a good jock?

* Real/Relatable/Interesting for the audience he/she is broadcasting to.

What makes a GREAT jock?

* One who has mastered the above + is a compelling listen.

 

NEWSTALK 106 BACK ON THE AGENDA! New Topic Reply to Topic

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JAMESDEANE

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 14:10:19

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I WAS INTERESTED TO SEE NEWS TALK 106 ADVERTISE FOR STAFF IN TODAYS TIMES, OH HOW I WOULD HATE TO BE A PROGRAMME MANAGER IN ANY OF THE LOCALS, WAIT UNTIL WE SEE A MASS EXIT FROM THE LOCAL NEWSROOMS! I AM GENUINLY PERPLEXED AS TO HOW THE STATION IS GOING TO WORK,FIRSTLY STAFF, WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO COME FROM? QUALITY BROADCASTERS WILL BE NEEDED, AND THEN OF COURSE STORIES, ARE WE GOING TO HEAR A LARGE AMOUNT OF DRAWN OUT INTERVIEWS ABOUT UNITERESTING TOPICS, I DONT KNOW, BUT WILL THEY NOT NEED A FEW CORRS AROUND THE COUNTRY TO FILE STORIES FROM THE REGION TO FILL PROGRAMMING, AND DONT SAY THEY WILL WORK THAT WITH INN BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT WONT HAPPEN!

FM

Padmund

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Ireland

6 Posts Posted - 13/10/2001 : 00:36:54

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Any info on what staff they are looking for and where to send applications ? Missed the Times today?

Cheers

P.

Radio Mad

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 00:03:48

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Reprinted below is the advert that appeared in the Irish Times last Friday.

______________________________________________________________________

Have your say

NewsTalk 106 FM - Dedicated to Dublin

Backed by some of Ireland's most successful independent broadcasters, NewsTalk 106 FM will be Dublin's radio station exclusively devoted to covering news from Dublin, Ireland and the World - all day, everyday.

From our ongoing coverage of news, current affairs, sport, business, arts and entertainment to constant updates on financial matters, weather, traffic and information, we'll be meeting a demand for programming that is fast moving, informed and keeps pace with a rapidly changing world.

It promises to be an exciting journey and we're building a talented and motivated team. Want to join us?

We need people for a range of roles. Some need senior experience but all require enthusiasm, energy and a passion for radio, We're seeking:

· Programme Director

· Programme Presenters

· News Director

· Editor

· Journalists

· Reporters

· Researchers

· Investigators

· Finance Director

· Sales Director

· Sales Executive

So if you love radio and you'd like to work in an exciting and rewarding environment, write and tell us why with a CV outlining relevant experience and indicating for which job you wish to apply:

Paul Kavanagh,

Chief Executive, NewsTalk 106 FM,

Hambleden House, 19/26 Lwr. Pembroke Street, Dublin 2.

All applications will be kept private and confidential.

NewsTalk 106FM

 

 

 

 

radio anoraks chat room? New Topic Reply to Topic

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pullmyfinger

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 02/10/2001 : 16:22:54

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Any chances admin?

Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 00:47:19

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good idea... how about it

is there not a private messaging feature too

mod2

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Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 04:28:06

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It all takes time. Chat room, private messaging and other things to come soon. Watch this space as they say.

Mod2

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Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 10/10/2001 : 22:44:05

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I await with baited breath!

Coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:04:39

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Are the Admin aware that theres lots of free chat rooms out there? It won't cost the site a penny.

 

nighttime radio New Topic Reply to Topic

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Dr Don

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Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 02/10/2001 : 08:49:09

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Vincent Browne is back long live the king !!! or something like that.

Informative, opinionated, arrogant but always entertaining.

What about the battle between Chris Barry and Adrian Kennedy who is the better broadcaster, who has the bigger audience, is it time for a change of programme ???

Donal Dineen ..does anyone really listen....discuss.

What plans do spin fm and star-Dublin-country have for their 20 per cent current affairs.

Tim Kelly is probably one of the best top 40 jocks on radio today its just that when he has to abandon format he hasn't a clue. Today FM need to find his strengths.

On the subject of Today FM is Ian Dempsey or Mario ****nstock the real success behind the breakfast show

Irish Mike

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 13/10/2001 : 23:58:27

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I'm amazed that the Chris Barry/Adrian Kennedy battle is still going on. I would have thought that one of the two big stations in Dublin might have seen the value in offering an alternative to phone-in lowest common denominator radio at night.

Whatever about Spin and Dublins Country, I suspect the real fun will start with the launch of NewsTalk. After all their whole remit is speech so they will automatically have an edge on this front (better resources and producers with a good understanding of current affairs).

I wonder if they'll make an approach to either Chris or Adrian, or do they have an ace up their sleeve in the late night battle??

 

Radio Mad

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 14/10/2001 : 20:17:49

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Licensing News Talk 106 to broadcast in Dublin only is mistake in my book. Surely, there is a strong argument for a station of this type to be made available to everyone in the country.

As for the suggestion that Messrs Barry or Kennedy might be signed-up, I sincerely hope this does not happen. Herein lies a great opportunity for us to produce a station on lines of the superb BBC Five Live. Now before anyone lambastes me for being unrealistic, I fully appreciate the resources and funding at the beeb's disposal, but not withstanding that, I feel, this new station could make a valiant effort at redressing the lack of choice on radio here when it comes to quality news and current affairs.

RTE's problem is that its Radio One service tries to encompass both talk and music on the one channel. Make it all-talk 24/7 and any music programmes it currently has should be transferred to a newly formatted Lyric FM.

It is also imperative that better use be made of satellite, ISDN and other modern technology in place of the over reliance it currently places on linking with ordinary land-line and mobile phones.

It is simply not good enough that news correspondent, Margaret Ward, can be seen and heard perfectly from Northern Afghanistan, but a reporter down the road from Donnybrook is still only equipped with a mobile phone in order to broadcast his/her piece back to studio.

We need good talk-only radio, strong in quality. It can come from RTE, the independent sector or best of all, both.

 

 

 

The Real Stuttering John

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Ireland

37 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 18:01:52

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will newstalk not be playing 3 hours of music at night while some of the music stations are doing talk!!!!

surely the 20% news and talk rule must go then. It is just plain stupid. If a station wants to do it let them rather than force them to churn out non-sense just for the sake of it.

 

coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:09:26

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I agree wholeheartedly. Either the BCI get with the times or they should resign and let others take their place. The constraints on Irish ILRs are a joke.

 

INTERNET RADIO STATIONS IN IRELAND N AND SOUTH New Topic Reply to Topic

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djmac

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Ireland

13 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:20:18

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Iknow this has nothing to do with pirate or legal radio. But does anyone know if there are any internet radio stations in Ireland north or south, Other than WOD1 OR ENERGY 80,S.... OR DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO BUILD OR GO ABOUT MAKING A INTERNET RADIO STATIO.

djmac

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Debbie Allen's in FHM! And so is Una Power! New Topic Reply to Topic

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Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 08/10/2001 : 16:12:17

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The mag's been doing a section on hot female DJ's. I nearly pissed myself when I read page 24 of this month's issue. The one with Caprice in a bikini on the front.

Very funny.

DeargDoom

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 09/10/2001 : 14:38:15

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Ah! So you're the sad b*stard that buys FHM! Theres always one...

 

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 09/10/2001 : 14:54:12

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What's sad about reading FHM? It's a great magazine! You're either a woman, or a bloke that's never read it. It's hilarious.

 

Edited by - Johnny C on 09/10/2001 14:54:36

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 18:37:57

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maybe DeargDoom may prefer a more Gay type of mag!

as for Me , like yourself , Johnny C , like blokes mags with loadza birds getting their tit's out!

LOL!

DeargDoom

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 13/10/2001 : 21:23:18

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nah, its just that I outgrew my 'lads magazine' phase when I was 22.

Anyway, try dating the real thing instead of reading about it 'FM Freddie'.

DD

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 13/10/2001 : 23:48:50

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Ah yes another thread which proves what a mature bunch of people Irish radio folks are!!

For god's sake GROW UP!!!! Johnny C is it perhaps just possible that you have a hint of jealousy towards Debbie because she's got a better gig than you AND she's being written about in a major magazine???

If some of the people who post here put half the effort into their careers that they put into bitching the quality of Irish radio could be a hell of a lot better. There are a lot of people on the radio in Dublin (legal and pirate) who have no right to be arrogant or egotistical.

fmfreddie

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lol......Each man to his own DD , each man to his own. As for FHM magazine , essential reading for any red blooded male in the capital like myself.

ohhh..by the way , over 200 radio heads have read this string and your comments.....sad.....lol.

 

but , as I say above.

Pumping Tonight

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Loaded and FHM are GREAT!

DD,call up emap magazines and make ur ridiculous comments!! - see if they give you airtime!

Irish Mike, if ur statement is true, name those individuals who CAN afford to be egotistical.

..and if I read the article upon which this thread is based while having a sneak-read in the newsagents, I'll probably run out of the shop, dropping the mag on the floor singing Joe Tex's disco hit "ain't gonna bump no more"

 

Johnny C

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Mike, I'm not jealous of Debbie Allen. And I'm not mentioning the letter to have a dig at her. The person who wrote the letter to the magazine's done that.

I just saw something about my local station in the multinational magazine I read every month, and it was rather funny. And putting something on a board that deals largely with radio was the fairly logical next step. And it appears that other people DID want to know about it.

The mag shows a pic of Una Power too - so I suppose I'm out to get that damn lucky psychic for landing that cracking gig on 98FM too.

Some people get all the breaks. I'd give my left ball to do a good horoscope show on weekend late nights. Ah well, back to my humble gig...

kermit

 

Johnny C

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And how am I being arrogant or egotistical by mentioning the letter? I think you ought to buy a dictionary, mate:

ar·ro·gant (r-gnt)

adj.

1.Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.

2.Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one's superiority toward others: an arrogant contempt for the weak.

AND...

e·go·tist (g-tst, g-)

n.

1.A conceited, boastful person.

2.A selfish, self-centered person.

 

DeargDoom

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FM Freddie says

"lol......Each man to his own DD , each man to his own. As for FHM magazine , essential

reading for any red blooded male in the capital like myself."

Freddie, I think you'll find most 'red blooded' men prefer meeting actual women as opposed to reading about them in a magazine.

 

Pumping says

"DD,call up emap magazines and make ur ridiculous comments!! - see if they give you airtime!"

How could a PUBLISHER give me airtime? Maybe their radio side could though. And I like a lot of Emap publications like Q (who have their RSL on in London at the mo).

Now go back to Loaded magazine and read about someone else's existence!

 

djmurray

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6 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 17:12:04

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WHAH AH AH.........WHAH AH AH!!!!!!!!!!!!

DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:29:27

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I never knew you had a "J" Denis...hope you'll pass it round!

 

 

 

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rush limbaugh New Topic Reply to Topic

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luther arkwright

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7 Posts Posted - 16/10/2001 : 00:37:26

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from the guardian website. a great loss?

 

Voice of the Right can hear no evil

American radio's top 'shock jock' reveals deafness but vows to carry on broadcasting coast-to-coast to 600 stations.

Lawrence Donegan in San Francisco

Sunday October 14, 2001

The Observer

America's most infamous talk radio show host, Rush Limbaugh, was in typically gung-ho mood on the bombing of Afghanistan. 'It's Hammer Time, folks!' he declared to his 20 million listeners, showing the sophisticated analysis of international politics that has kept them tuned in for 15 years.

But Limbaugh's image as the indestructible voice of the American Right was shaken last week with the announcement that he has gone almost completely deaf over the past six months. 'I can't communicate with people,' he told his audience last Thursday morning. 'I can occasionally talk to people in person, one to one. But I can't hear radio. I can't hear television. I can't hear music. My left ear is completely shot, and I've lost 80 per cent of my hearing in the right. If the pattern keeps up, I will be entirely deaf.'

Limbaugh said he first realised he had a problem at the end of May, when he woke one morning with no hearing in his left ear. Despite a rapid decline over the following months he was still able to broadcast his show, though several listeners had sent him emails asking why he was sounding different. 'It could well be that my voice is changing. I don't know. I can't hear myself well enough to know.'

Doctors have diagnosed a rare condition known as auto-immune inner ear disease, AIED, which they describe as akin to arthritis of the ear. It is responsible for just 1 per cent of hearing loss cases.

A failed sports broadcaster who **** to prominence during Newt Gingrich's Republican 'revolution' of the early Nineties, 50-year-old Limbaugh made a career - and millions of dollars - out of baiting former President Bill Clinton and America's liberal community. His core audience, known to friend and foe alike as 'ditto heads', is drawn largely from an angry white male constituency, though some on the left have been known to tune in on a 'know thy enemy' basis.

In July he signed a nine-year $259 million deal to syndicate his show to over 600 stations across America, the richest contract in the history of radio. Limbaugh and his syndication company, Premier Networks, both insist they didn't know the extent of his condition when the deal was signed, though both appear committed to seeing it fulfilled. 'They (the doctors) have told me they are 15 years away from a cure. I'll only be 65, and the word "retire" is not in my vocabulary. I'm not going to quit until every American agrees with me,' the broadcaster said.

There has been an outpouring of sympathy for Limbaugh but some commentators are critical at the way he handled the announcement. Jerry Del Colliano, publisher of the daily industry newsletter Inside Radio, accused him of not being straight with his listeners and advertisers. 'He says his listeners are his extended family yet while he knew of his hearing loss in May he chose not to share the information with them until this week.'

Ken Meuller, radio curator at New York's Museum of Television and Radio, said Limbaugh's disappearance from the nation's airwaves would be disastrous. 'He has been a very important figure in modern radio. A lot of AM stations in America were struggling, and these stations were able to rebuild themselves around Limbaugh's programme.'

Some stations might be tempted to blame falling revenues over the next year on Limbaugh's deafness, according to Del Colliano, when the real problem is the advertising recession and Limbaugh's steady assimilation into the US establishment. 'He is undoubtedly a huge star but I begin to wonder - and several radio stations have shared this concern with me too - whether he is still on the cutting edge now he doesn't have Bill Clinton to kick around.'

But Kraig Kitchen, president of Limbaugh's syndication company, insisted technological advances, coupled with his star's resolve, would be enough to ensure the longevity of the Limbaugh brand. 'During Rush's three-hour programme he typically talks to between six and nine callers. We have employed real-time transcription technology that allows him to read the communication that is coming into his right ear, so it is in front of him on a screen,' he said. 'We've also got technology that allows the producers who have worked with him for years to show Rush, through notes and through different colours on the computer monitor, the moods, impressions and the direction that each caller approaches each phone conversation with.'

The day after announcing his deafness, Limbaugh received more than 30,000 emails and countless phone calls, including one from New York Mayor and fellow Republican Rudi Giuliani.

Dr Jennifer Derebery, a Los Angeles hearing specialist who is treating the broadcaster, described AIED as an inflammation of the inner ear caused by the patient's own immune system.

 

 

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Dublin's Country New Topic Reply to Topic

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Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 14/10/2001 : 10:40:03

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Good luck to David Harvey with the launch of Dublin's Country tomorrow.

Nelson Muntz

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Yes, should be interesting to see if there is an audience for such a station. If so lets see if they can be as successful as Lite in their first year. Audio is great and signal is very strong!! Good Luck

MrRolo

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Yes indeed, the best of luck to all the people involved. I have noticed there is little or no advertising/media coverage for the station compared to that of when Lite was launching, is there a reason behind this?

The Real Stuttering John

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yes good luck with the new station but when is the website going to be updated. The time is wrong, the top of the page says "on test" and the presenters page states that the line up will be announced on 10 October!!!

Come on lads get the finger out. On a positive note I must congratulate the station on some great Hot country

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NEWSFLASH - Netradio.com goes bang!! New Topic Reply to Topic

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The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 18/10/2001 : 20:30:52

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Online broadcaster NetRadio Corp.(www.netradio.com)the biggest online multi-channel broadcaster in the world has ceased broadcasting immediately and terminated most of its employees after an investment partner failed to obtain financing for a planned strategic investment transaction.

"The US-based company said its efforts on the sidelines to finalize a transaction which could be funded in the near-term had also failed...

The NASDAQ halted trading in the company's shares earlier on Wednesday.

 

This is terrible news as many friends of mine including myself have enjoyed it's 80+ online channles for a number of years now. It often had 4-5 channels in the top 10 arbitron online ratings. It goes to show the more listeners you have online the more it costs and the more successful you are the more it costs you including even your business.

 

This is a bad week for radio: atlantic 252 to go, abc in waterford to go, netradio.com gone who next??

Read the story :

http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/011017/n17219189_1.html

Visit the message on it's site

www.netradio.com

 

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bci ownership policy New Topic Reply to Topic

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luther arkwright

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7 Posts Posted - 19/10/2001 : 00:02:19

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INTRODUCTION

The Radio and Television Act 1988 requires the BCI to formulate and apply a policy that takes account of plurality of ownership and diversity of content in broadcasting. The Broadcasting Act 2001, which makes provision for the introduction of a host of new analogue and digital radio and television services, also addresses the issue of diversity of sources and of content, in the interests of listeners and viewers.

Following the Commission's announcement of its strategy for future licensing in the first half of 2000, it was decided that the question of the Commission's ownership and control policy was appropriate for review. Initial consideration of the matter was addressed at the Commission's policy meeting in November 2000 with a more detailed analysis prepared for the subsequent meeting in April 2001. It was decided at that point to undertake a comprehensive review of the policy on ownership and control. The timing of the review was designed to coincide with the beginning of the second phase in the development of commercial broadcasting in Ireland under the 1988 Act, and with the introduction of new broadcasting services under the Broadcasting Act 2001.

Following the implementation of a wide-ranging consultation process with the broadcasting sector and the public, the Commission has now decided that it is appropriate to develop the existing policy in a number of respects to address the characteristics and needs of a sector that is rapidly evolving and expanding in response to technological, social and economic change. The Commission's overall goal is to achieve a fair, reasonable and proportionate regulatory regime that will serve the sector and the public well in the developing media environment.

 

The Commission's revised policy is divided into four sections as follows: -

Guiding Regulatory Principles

Legislative Framework,

Policy Objectives, and

Policy Details.

 

1. Guiding Regulatory Principles

The principles set out in this section are those that the Commission considers important in formulating and implementing its regulatory policy into the future. They are based on an endorsement of the Council of Europe's premise that the primary task of a regulatory body is to ensure that it functions smoothly by establishing a climate of dialogue, openness and trust in dealings with broadcasters. The principles recognise the importance of the BCI being in a position to respond flexibly and adequately to unforeseen and often complex questions that will emerge in the developing broadcasting landscape.

 

Diversity of programming services for the public

In fulfilling its statutory obligations under the 1988 and 2001 Acts (deciding on applications, determining contracts, monitoring programming and drawing up codes for broadcasters), the BCI aims to put the public into a position which gives them access to a diversity of programming from a variety of sources in the form of broadcasting services of such number and categories as will best serve the needs of the people of the island of Ireland, bearing in mind their languages and traditions and their religious, ethical and cultural diversity.

Flexible and Consistent Approach

The BCI aims to develop and operate a simple, flexible but comprehensive regulatory scheme, capable of responding to technological and market developments, as well as national and local conditions. Its goal is regulation that will encompass flexibility and adaptability to the needs of change, to prevent it being overtaken by technology or appearing to be too rigid, inconsistent, arbitrary, or biased.

The BCI recognises the need for regulation to be technically literate and well informed about new developments in the marketplace. In a world of converging technologies, it must be able to react to the needs of a situation, which is constantly developing, in order to secure the best possible deal for listeners and viewers who are the main clients of regulation.

Adequate regulation based on current conditions

The BCI takes the view that regulation needs to be capable of facilitating broadcasting as well as setting standards and applying them. The BCI intends to adopt a lighter touch, that is, a facilitative approach to regulation, in the light of prevailing conditions, while adhering to its statutory obligations of ensuring pluralism and diversity in the interests of the listener and viewer. It sees its role as being largely confined to formulating basic principles, which will be formalised in actual agreements with broadcasters.

The BCI is committed to fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory access, and to regulation that accords with EU law and ensures effective competition in both existing and new emerging markets. In that regard, the BCI, while mindful of its cultural remit, aims to work in co-operation with other regulators, e.g. telecommunications and competition authorities, in order to achieve an overall coherence and co-ordination in regulation.

Openness and Dialogue

It is the intention of the BCI to ensure that the regulatory regime functions smoothly by establishing a climate of dialogue, openness and trust in dealings with broadcasters.

In a spirit of openness and co-operation with the sector, the BCI will consider possibilities or opportunities for co-regulation or self-regulation on the part of the sector.

Clear Decision-making

The BCI understands the need to provide a rationale for its decisions (in accordance with section 6(5) as inserted by section 60 of the 2001 Act) in the interests of certainty and predictability for the sector and for would-be entrants or participants.

The BCI appreciates the need also, in the interests of the sector and the public, to ensure clarity and certainty in the regime, and to avoid unnecessary delays in decision-making.

 

2. Legislative Framework for Ownership and Control Policy

Introduction

The framework for the Commission's Ownership and Control Policy is set out in Sections 6 and 14 of the Radio and Television Act 1988. The Broadcasting Act 2001, while more concerned with diversity of content, also includes a number of provisions relevant to ownership and control matters at Sections 11, 38 and 41. The relevant sections of each Act are set out hereunder

Radio and Television Act 1988

The relevant sections of the 1988 Act are sections 6(2) and 14(2).

Section 6 (2) - Criteria for consideration when awarding a contract

Section 6(2) requires the IRTC, in awarding a contract, to have regard to

(a) the character of the applicant ... the character of the body and its directors, manager, secretary or other similar officer ..."

(b) the adequacy of the expertise and experience and of the financial resources that will be available to each applicant and the extent to which the application accords with good economic principles;

(g) the desirability of allowing any person, or group of persons, to have control of, or substantial interests in, an undue number of sound broadcasting services in respect of which a sound broadcasting contract has been awarded under this Act

(h) the desirability of allowing any person, or group of persons, to have control of, or substantial interests in, an undue amount of the communications media in the area specified in a notice under Section 5 (5)

Section 14 (2) - Assignment or change of ownership

Section 14(2) concerns the assignment of a contract or any interest therein. In essence, it empowers the Commission to prohibit an assignment or any material change in the ownership of a company, either by specifying a condition in the contract itself, or by making the assignment subject to the previous consent in writing of the Commission, in which case the Commission shall have regard to the criteria set out in section 6(2) and, where applicable s.6(3)* .

*This relates to the awarding of contracts for the provision of services in areas which include Gaeltacht areas.

 

Broadcasting Act 2001

The relevant sections of the 2001 Act are Sections 11(2), 38(6), 41(4) and 60

Section 11 (2) - General obligation in relation to numbers and categories of

services

Section 11 (2) puts an onus on the BCI to ensure that the number and categories of broadcasting services made available

"best serve the needs of the people of the island of Ireland, bearing in mind their languages and traditions and their religious, ethical and cultural diversity" (s.11.2).

Section 38 (6) - Local Content Contracts

With regard to local content contracts, the Act (s.38(6)) carries over the requirement for the Commission to have regard to

(a) the desirability of allowing any person, or group of persons, to have control of, or substantial interests in, an undue amount of the communications media in the locality served by the cable or MMD system proposed to transmit that material, and

(b) the desirability of promoting diversity in the sources of information available to the public and in the opinions expressed in the communications media.

For that purpose, the Commission may require (s.38(7)) the person(s) concerned to supply information with respect to the extent of

(a) any interest of a proprietary or financial nature held by him or her in relation to the provision of broadcasting services (including sound broadcasting services) in the State or the publication of any newspaper, magazine or journal in the State, or

(b) the control he or she may exercise in relation to the provision of any such service or the publication of any such newspaper, magazine or journal.

If the person fails to comply, the Commission shall not enter into a local content contract with him or her.

Section 41 (4) - Cable and MMD Content Contracts

In addition, section 41(4) states that the Commission may enter into a cable-MMD content contract with a person if, but only if, it is satisfied that the entering into the contract

"will result in the range and diversity of broadcasting services available in the relevant area being increased".

 

Section 60 - Amendment to Section 6 of 1988 Act

Section 60 of the 2001 Act amends s.6 of the Radio and Television Act 1988 by inserting additional subsections after subsection 3. These new provisions require the Commission in considering the suitability of an applicant for the award of a sound broadcasting contract to have regard to "the overall quality of the performance of the applicant" with respect to any sound broadcasting service already provided by him under a sound broadcasting contract (s.6(4). The Commission is also required to give reasons where it decides to refuse to award a sound broadcasting contract to an applicant (s.6(5).

Overall Goal of Statutory Provisions

The principles and objectives underlying the statutory provisions are therefore clear. The overall goal of the provisions of the 1988 Act is to ensure a viable, sustainable industry, characterised by plurality of ownership, which will deliver diversity of content to listeners and viewers. The provisions of the 2001 Act concentrate principally on diversity of content and ensuring that a range of services and information sources, which directly reflect their needs, are available to Irish audiences. The precise methods of achieving those objectives, however, are not set out in the legislation but are left to the Commission to determine as a matter of policy.

Commission's Approach to Implementation of Statutory Provisions

The Commission takes the view that it is necessary, in accordance with the legislative provisions, to have a policy on ownership and control. Both Acts list certain factors to which the BCI is to have regard and thereby require the Commission to focus on issues that will affect diversity, both within the broadcasting sector and within each specified (franchise) area. The Commission is obliged by the legislation to cover all radio and television services, but is entitled to take account of the differences between existing and new services and between radio and television services (in terms of different market conditions, cost factors and expertise), and between services which are guaranteed access and those that are not.

 

3. Policy Objectives

The policy objectives set out here emanate from careful consideration of the various issues and concerns addressed by the statutory provisions, from the Commission's own experience in regulating the broadcasting sector to date and from the wide-ranging consultation process entered into with the sector. They provide a benchmark and overall context in which the Commission will develop, implement and assess ownership and control measures and will respond to new issues emerging in relation to licence applications and to changes in ownership and control structures applying to existing services.

The policy objectives are as follows:

 

To promote plurality of ownership of the communications media, with particular reference to radio and television services

To promote diversity in viewpoint, outlet and source, that is, diversity in the opinions expressed, in programming delivery and content, and in the sources of information available to the public.

To ensure that broadcasting contracts are held by persons who have available to them the necessary character, expertise, experience and financial resources.

To ensure that the ethos of a broadcasting service is such that it will best serve the needs of the audience it is licensed to service.

4. Policy Details

The legislation under which the Commission operates requires it to have regard to certain specified issues that may affect diversity. In order to meet its statutory obligations, the Commission first needs to interpret the terms used and then to adopt decision-making criteria to give effect to them in practice. The policy details therefore, are divided into three sections:

- Definition of Statutory Terms

- Decision-making Framework

- Other Policy Details

The Commission would also point out that the policy details relate to commercial broadcasting services only - the Commission has separate ownership policies in respect of institutional and community services.

i) Definition of Statutory Terms

The Commission will give effect to the statutory terms as follows:

"Control" - is in a position proprietorially, financially or in terms of voting rights to determine or direct the policy of the company with regard to programme output, that is, sourcing, production, supply or delivery to the audience.

"Substantial interests in" - has sufficient proprietary, financial or voting strength within a relevant company or companies to be able to influence directly or indirectly to an appreciable extent the strategic direction or policy of the company (companies) with regard to programme output, that is, sourcing, production, supply or delivery to the audience.

"Communications Media" - includes all broadcasting services (including sound broadcasting services) in the State or the publication of any newspaper, magazine or journal in the State.

The Commission will not differentiate between whether an applicant has 'control' or 'substantial interests' when making a determination under Sections 6 (2)(g) and (h) of the 1988 Act. The application of these sections is set out hereunder.

Section 6 (2)(g) - "An undue number of sound broadcasting services licensed under the 1988 Act"

The Commission has taken the view that, in order to provide guidance for applicants and a degree of certainty for the sector, it would be preferable to set minimum and upper limits, in respect of what the Commission considers an "undue number". This is designed to ensure that a reasonable range and number of different voices be available to the public.

The Commission is of the view that a number equivalent to 15% or less of the total number of commercial sound broadcasting services licensed under the Act would likely be an acceptable level for any one investor. A number equivalent to between 15% and 25% would require more careful consideration by the Commission and would be necessary for an applicant to justify. A number equivalent to over 25% would be unacceptable..

Section 6(2)(h) - "an undue amount of communications media in a specified area".

The Commission is of the view that "undue amount" should mean "more than a reasonable share of the range of communications media available to audiences in the franchise area". However, the Commission also takes the view that there is no obvious practical model for determining what constitutes "reasonable share" in all cases. The Commission will therefore consider each application on a case-by-case basis with particular reference to the circumstances i.e. the total communications media in the specified area.

The following criteria will be applied by the Commission in making its determination:

 

An examination of the totality of the communications media in the area specified including, a different weighting to be given between national and local services.

The application of a test of substitutability, i.e. in assessing the extent to which one communications media can be deemed to be a substitute for another, regard will be had to the characteristics of the communications media in question, the cost to the user and/or its target audience.

An examination of the applicant's ability to influence opinion-forming power, its dominance of the local advertising market and dominance of the market share of any communications media in which it held an interest.

Each applicant will be asked to justify its application in the context of all of the above criteria.

ii) Decision-making Framework

In light of the more complex environment of the future, the Commission recognises the need to adopt points of reference, levels and models for determining concentration and to have a structured policy in that regard, based on a clear identification of the different strands of convergence in the industry.

Types of Concentration

The Commission will consider applications in the context of the three recognised types of media integration: horizontal integration (ownership and capital integration on the part of companies operating in the same market (i.e. broadcasting companies), diagonal integration (ownership and capital integration among companies that do not belong to the same market and do not stand in a supplier-purchaser relationship, e.g. among broadcasting companies and other media, such as print) and vertical integration (ownership and capital integration where a company combines with other companies, upstream or downstream in production or trading terms).

 

Models for Determining Concentration

The consultation document identified four models for measuring concentration which are used to varying degrees in different parts of Europe. The four models are: The audience share model (which determines the percentage of the total audience reached by programmes attributable to one company over a certain time period), the licence-holder share model (which limits the involvements that a company may have in different licence holders), the revenue share/frequency limitation model (which combines two thresholds, namely the share of programmes relative to the total frequencies available for commercial broadcasting and the revenue earned by one market player relative to the revenues earned in the market as a whole), and the capital share/broadcasting licence model (three separate criteria applied cumulatively, namely capital share limits in one broadcaster, number of licences, limits on capital shares in a number of broadcasters).

No one model is particularly appropriate to the Irish sector, given the various elements contained within the legislation. However, the Commission will apply the capital share/broadcasting licence model in the context of the number of licences and the limits on capital shares in a number of broadcasters. The audience share model will be applied as a measure for determining the undue amount of communications media in a specified area.

 

iii) Other Policy Details

Local ethos

There is considerable support within the broadcasting sector for the maintenance of a local ethos within licensed broadcasting services. The Commission also supports this view and includes the principle of local ethos as a key ownership and control policy objective.

The Commission does not regard local ownership as an essential element in the achievement of a local ethos. In considering whether an application for a licence or a change in ownership will satisfy the local ethos objective, the Commission will make its determination based on an analysis of the application from both an organisation and programming perspective. The following criteria will be applied:

Is the general quality, range, type and schedule of programming to be provided on the service appropriate to listeners in the specified local area.

Does the Programme Policy Statement of the service reflect sufficient commitment to:-

(i) serving local communities and communities of interest within the specified local area.

(ii) the creation of new opportunities for Irish talent in music, drama and entertainment and

(iii) programmes relating to Irish language and culture.

Is the management structure of the company adequate and does the membership and make-up of the management team have sufficient experience and expertise to operate a service relevant to the specified local area.

Does the Board of the Company include sufficient personnel with the necessary experience, expertise and knowledge relevant to the specified local area.

Non-EU Applicants

Non EU applicants will be required to have their place of residence or registered office within the EU or as otherwise required by EC law.

When considering such applications, the Commission will also have regard to the extent to which reciprocal arrangements for investment or licensing are in place with the relevant foreign state/s.

 

100% Ownership and Composition of Company

The 1988 Act requires the Commission to have regard to the character of a company and its main personnel, as well as the expertise, experience, financial resources available to it and the good economic sense of its application.

The Commission has previously operated a maximum percentage holding in order to ensure compliance with these statutory provisions. However, in the light of the changing broadcasting environment, the Commission will consider allowing 100% ownership, where all the other criteria set out in its policy are met. It would be a matter for an applicant wishing to take 100% to make a case to the Commission that all of the safeguards necessary to ensure pluralism and diversity, as envisaged in the Commissions policy, are in place and will be met.

In considering the composition /structure of a company, the Commission will not differentiate between either an individual/family, or a private or public company subject to the aforementioned safeguards for pluralism and diversity being in place.

Contractual Provisions in Relation to Assignment of Contracts and Alterations in the Ownership of Contractors

The 1988 Act (s.14 (2)) addresses the assignment of a contract or any interest therein. In essence, it empowers the Commission to prohibit an assignment or any material change in the ownership of a company, either by specifying a condition in the contract itself, or by making the assignment subject to the previous consent in writing of the Commission, in which case the Commission shall have regard to the criteria set out in section 6(2) and, where applicable s.6(3).

The Commission is conscious of the competitive nature of the licensing process for sound broadcasting services and is equally conscious of the resources dedicated to the preparation of applications by each applicant group. The Commission will generally look unfavourably upon proposed changes in ownership structures within a two-year period after the granting of a licence. The Commission takes the view that such changes are likely to undermine the integrity of the licensing process itself and be unfair to unsuccessful applicants. A term bringing this general principle into effect will be included in all future broadcasting contracts.

 

 

 

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Another Legal Farce For Mid-Ulster New Topic Reply to Topic

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thepresident

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9 Posts Posted - 19/10/2001 : 21:04:24

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See following the demise of the two Medium Wave stations for the Mid-Ulster area the Authority have seen fit to advertise an FM license for the area, pity that it`s a foregone conclusion that the same will happen here as has already happened in the other areas previously granted licenses, i.e. Due to the nature of this body it`s almost guaranteed that no newcomer with any intention of trying to provide a legitimate COMMUNITY service will be afforded the opportunity, instead the license will be handed to those who offer backhanders to any person whose support they feel will further their cause.. Sorry I Have to appear so scathing, but believe me I`ve seen how it works[, Until the approach to licensing and Fat cat monopolies changes I for one have no faith in the Licensing Authorities and their approach to licensing in Northern Ireland.. First time applicants save your application fee and Demand Reform, Radio Licensing North and South has failed miserably.

 

 

 

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Simon Young New Topic Reply to Topic

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 18/10/2001 : 16:50:48

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has he left 2FM.....hope not!!

has he gone full time into acting??, I read in an article saying that he would never give up radio....he was excellent doing the jukebox on Sundays....J.Clarke is doing a good job on this show for the last few months.

can anyone shed any light on one of the best,funniest,slickest jocks in the country?.

fmfreddie

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well , theres one eh.......thanks for reminding me , siumon young is an top jock on air , lighthearted and funny. He was doing a grand job of the jukebox and wheres he gone now? Someone out there must know?

But as for John Clarke , he's past it on air , soooooooo boring! Like , his lounge lizards thing is a farce , give it up John , you're in the past , as for clutter free radio 2fm , you gotta be joking , the bleedin thing is chock full of clutter.

 

if you wanna listen to a good radio show going for a similar audience , Jim O 'neil on Today is much slicker and really knows his music and there is no bullsh-t liners.

Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 19/10/2001 : 09:03:10

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John Clarke is doing a superb job standing in for Simon Young on 2fm. Clare is one of the slickest jocks on radio and its great to hear him back on air.

Has it come to this !! Our liners are better than your liners ! And there was me thinking it was the music and presentation led the way.

oops silly me.

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Still left wondering where always useful Simon Young is, did Johnston Mooney finally get him for eating the filling out of cakes in his van days.

fmfreddie

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John Clarke is doing a superb job standing in for Simon Young on 2fm. Clare is one of the slickest jocks on radio and its great to hear him back on air.

Has it come to this !! Our liners are better than your liners ! And there was me thinking it was the music and presentation led the way.

oops silly me.

 

 

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Dr. Don , when it comes to john Clarke , it's a matter of preference , and yours is 2fm it seems , fine by me , it's just not my cuppa.

in relation to liners , i think they are also important as well as the music and presentation cos they all go hand in hand , thats all!

but , horse's for course's ,

cheers , Fmfreddie.

 

Edited by - fmfreddie on 19/10/2001 21:48:05

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Its all wrong New Topic Reply to Topic

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Radiofriend

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Hello All,

This is my first post on the new Board and can I say that it looks great ,I see that Deargdoom is still posting a lot and even though I dont know who you are I respect you a lot because of some great posts you have made to this site......"Ok.......Here is my problem ..All these so called programmers in this country dont have the balls to take a chance in my opinion?.....It seems to me that they think the public are fools... If they programme Dylan its "Knockin on heavens doors" If its Billy Joel its "Piano Man" If its Steely Dan its "Reelin in the Years" If its James Taylor its "Fire and Rain".,....................... "People and not as silly and stupid as you think?.....Lets have "A Simple twist of fate""All for Lenya""Peg"and maybe "Millworker" from Sweet baby James....Please answer me why we need to be swamped with the same auld so called classics all the time?

 

Regards

 

RF

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Mark Byrne!!! New Topic Reply to Topic

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Pilots Pal

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USA

5 Posts Posted - 17/10/2001 : 20:47:36

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Hi Mark,

Any chance of the jumpseat sometime?

V1 Rotate!

Pilots Pal

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5 Posts Posted - 18/10/2001 : 15:15:39

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Does no-one not know what Im talking about. Mark will be soon swapping scruffys for The Coachmans for a pint after work!!

coo coo kachoo

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Maybe some tact here my little friend? It has been widely known what long term plans Mark has for his future yet it has never been posted here as Mark's privacy is respected. As one of the nicer guys in the industry Mark deserves a little more then childish hints on a radio board.

In fact, this thread should be closed by one of the Mods.

fmfreddie

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off to fly jumbo's ehhhhh , pity , as he's one of the best 98's got. And a sad loss he'll be to radio just as Barry Lang was.

His drive gig was a lot better than the tripe Chony Fenton does at the moment ,forever trying desperate to sound young , and probably saving for that time machine so he can really try and get back to being young.......for goodness sakes , 2fm is a joke.

 

but Mark , please reconsider?

Edited by - fmfreddie on 18/10/2001 21:08:55

Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 20/10/2001 : 21:02:29

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So from on the air to in the air!

If it's true, good luck to Mark. He's, without doubt, one of the best presenter talents in Ireland.

I remember him on Sunshine, Millennium, Century, FM104 and going from 98FM to Today FM and then back to 98.

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Krispo

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Ireland

2 Posts Posted - 20/10/2001 : 22:45:54

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Anybody heard anything about 98fm supposedly interested in Midlands radio 3 and C.K.R. licences???

 

Radiofriend

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7 Posts Posted - 21/10/2001 : 12:27:53

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I really can't see that happening Tony!!!!!!

fmfreddie

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Personally , i would hope that someone would go for the Midlands licence that has a bit of clout behind them , a blow the current shower outta the water.

ohhh..and radiofriend , why not , Midlands radio 3 has the largest licensed area franchise in Ireland. And its currently making money even though the programming is pure sh@t. Why Not?

 

Edited by - fmfreddie on 21/10/2001 13:45:16

jryan

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1 Posts Posted - 21/10/2001 : 21:07:40

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I hope it is true, as it is about time that the 3 man radio station be given a new life...

It has to be one of the worst stations in the country.

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Ballyfermot / Dun Laoghaire - New Term New Topic Reply to Topic

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ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 27/09/2001 : 16:34:15

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Could anyone who got places in Dun Laoghaire or Ballyfermot this year tell me what they think of it so far? And what did you put into your portfolios?

Cheers,

Scott B

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Padmund

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to be honest mate I wouldnt worry hugely about your portfolio I dont know ANYONE who has had it looked at - all they do is ask you wot is on it - but it is good to have something with you - just in case - but I would recommend something like say some production work whether the technical side or the voicing side you may have done , perhaps some program you may have been involved in - either presenting or producing etc.. or some proof of work experience which you may have done / intend to do. And make sure taht you have kinda an idea of whats happening in the radio industry (eg new stations, what you like dont like and why etc ) .

Hope this helps a bit

Regards

Padmund

ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 27/09/2001 : 22:51:37

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Looking over the portfolio for Dun Laoghaire, it says you need to send in a portfolio before they ask you to an interview. Did you go to Dun Laoghaire, what is it like?

Cheers,

Scott B

ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 27/09/2001 : 22:52:38

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Looking over the prospectus, rather!

Cheers,

Scott B

peterpie

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1 Posts Posted - 28/09/2001 : 12:43:46

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IT MIGHT BE WORTH NOTING THAT THE PREVIOUS CLASS AT DUNLAOGHAIRE ARE CURRENLTY TAKING ACTION REGARDING THE CONTENT AND DELIVERY OF THE RADIO COURSE. SOME STUDENTS HAVE BEEN QUOTED IN THE IRISH TIMES AS SAYING IT WAS A "WASTE OF TIME"

Louise

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I haven't heard too many good words said about Dun Laoghire, I got accepted to both Ballyfermot and Dun Laoghire, and I chose Ballyfermot, The portfolio and interview are quite tough for Dun Laoghire. You need a strong portfolio including a demo. You have to drop in your portfolio and collect it a few hours later they decide by it whether you deserve an interview or not. All the portfolio requirements are listed and sent to you once you have applied for the course. I wouldn't worry too much about it, as they only run this course once every 2 years, this year being one of them, so the next one won't be until September 2003. That'll give you plenty of time!! I had a portfolio for Ballyfermot, but it isn't stated anywhere that you need one, you can include a demo etc. but unless things have changed they may not listen to it, just a few pages detailing your experience and proving your interest should be fine. Hope I've been a little bit helpful anyway! I'm on my 3rd year in Ballyfermot, and I definitely think it's worthwhile.

 

ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 29/09/2001 : 18:25:50

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So for Ballyfermot you sent in an essay along the lines of "I love radio", "it's something I've always been interested in", "I'd really like to learn more about it"? I'm only in 5th year at the moment, so I won't be going anywhere until Sept. 2003 anyway, want to get a good portfolio ready anyway. Do you know of any good courses in the UK?

Cheers,

Scott B

Louise

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If you apply for Ballyfermot you'll be called for interview, so if you wish, you can bring along a portfolio with you. They'll glance through it, but not in major detail or anything. It's not really essay about how much you love radio, you can just detail all the radio work you've done, I included a couple of photos in mine as well. It makes it seem more interesting!

I'm not too familiar with the English courses, except for the BTEC Higher national Diploma in Radio Production, which is the same one as Ballyfermot are running. I don't know anything about the colleges though.

ScottB

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It's been said on these boards a few times, that Ballyfermot lecturers have a lot of contacts in the big radio stations. Is it true? Do you know around how many people apply for Ballyfermot? Is it very hard to get in to? Meaning, what would a persons chances be?

Cheers,

Scott B

Padmund

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heya Scott,

If you are thinking o Dun Laoghaire DONT !!! I know people who have been there and really regret it now wishing they had gone to Ballyfermot. Most of the media lecturers know some of the big name sin the industry - why ?? well cause they have been to ballyfermot. Even if you look throught the different stations websites you'll see that some of them mention ballyfermot. you asked about courses in Uk Well as Louise mention Btec - this is the governing body over the courses in England - it actually is the goverening body of the Ballyfermot radio course also - so you would be gettn near enough the same course here - with the advantage of lecturers that have worked in the industry and that know the Irish radio industry - rather than just the radio industry - there is a difference. and agian about the portfolio for Ballyfermot - dont loose to much sleep over it but do be able to show that you have a genuine interest in Radio - and NOT just presenting, as ill guarantee that even if thats all you wat to do now a few moths into the course after seeing all the other stuff involved you could change your mind, and perhaps might like to get into news, production, technical, sales, marketing, PR etc etc Anyway my final words are if you want the best Radio course in ireland ad the one which is most well known by all the iportat people - choose Ballyfermot !

Cheers and good luck

Padmund

ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 30/09/2001 : 00:31:07

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A couple more replies and we'll be a hot topic! I have already been turned off Dun Laoghaire. Maybe they'll get it sorted out by 2003. As for Ballyfermot, would you explain the year - by - year content to me? What do you study year 1, year 2 and so on...

Cheers,

Scott B

Padmund

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Well the content can be mixed around a bit all the modules stay the same in my first year the modules ( which was last year ) were: Marketing, Finance, Broadcast Voice ( Excellent fun !!! ) Radio Programming, Radio Production, Media Analysis, Studio Operations, Information Technology and thing called Common Skills which well dosent even merit a mention !! This second yr modules are Markting, MultiMedia - programming & Production ( all these three are kinda combined to one general class ) Media Law, Journalism and Human Resource Management - - - think thats em all.

Now I know you might be thinking what the hell have some of em got to do with radio - but you'll be surprised how they actually do relate to it - remember it takes more than presenters to have a station ! Anyhow hope this helps a bit.

Padmund.

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20 Posts Posted - 05/10/2001 : 16:44:22

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Could you tell me a little more about Broadcast Voice and Common Skills?

Cheers,

Scott B

TonyL

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5 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 19:07:08

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Hi Scott,

The 2 yrs (when I attended) contained 16 modules, 8 a year. Now, for the 2 in question......

Common Skills is a collection of skills and attributes one may already have and may also gain throughout the course. Evidence of such skills must be presented and logged in the "Common Skills Book" which should be handed up at the end of year for grading.

Broadcast Voice is as it says...A class for ones "Broadcast Voice". No doubt you shall the lovely Br.enda for this class. The aim of this class is to teach one how to project the voice so as to create impact. Ways of changing the tone and strength of the voice will also be covered i.e. adapting ones voice for example in reading childrens stories, news etc etc.

All in all I found Ballyfermot CFE to be a great place to learn, and I would recommend it to anyone with a definite interest in the media industry.

All the best,

Tony Langsford.

 

Edited by - TonyL on 12/10/2001 19:11:08

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ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 12/10/2001 : 21:45:22

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Thanks for clearing that up! Two more questions, does anyone have an idea what the ratio of demand/acceptance is at the college, ie. How many want to get in : those who do get in? Also, would one/two weeks work experience along with radio play scripts and home-made demos be enough to cover the portfolio?

Cheers,

Scott B

djmurray

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6 Posts Posted - 13/10/2001 : 11:11:10

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Hello ScottB,

Email me at <media.dept@bcfe.cdvec.ie> and I'll arrange a phone call or meeting to give you all the information you require about the media courses at BCFE.

regards

Denis J. Murray

Edited by - djmurray on 14/10/2001 14:37:29

 

angel

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hi scott

as you proable already know dennis is a lecturer at the college and you have already got off on a good foot by displaying so much interest in ballyfermot. im at ballyfermot and loving every min not only am i studin something i love but im havin a laugh doing it.

Good Luck

jenny

ScottB

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20 Posts Posted - 23/10/2001 : 17:35:44

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Sent you an email Mr Murray, don't know if you got it or not. If you didn't could you say?

Cheers,

Scott B

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New IRTC/BCI rules on ownership/readvertisement New Topic Reply to Topic

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Mister807

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Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 23/10/2001 : 23:51:55

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Theres been precious little talk on what is a very important topic for all of us in the radio industry, so I'm going to start the ball rolling so to speak.

Franchise areas first of all:

Basically, all the existing licences will be readvertised as they are. Depending on what the existing operators say, it may be that many if not all of the franchise areas stay the same. The real relevance is for new franchise areas. The fact that for instance CKR supposedly serve North Kildare as well as rural County Carlow will not have escaped potential investors minds, so maybe we will see either expansion of the Dublin franchises or a new franchise area completely. Same goes for many areas.

Heres a question that follows on from that:

Why does the midlands only have one radio station? Why does Limerick only have one radio station? Ditto Galway, Wexford, Louth etc. Why does Dublin only have four radio stations? Please dont use the "market is too small" answer. Its irrelevant as the market will decide what it can sustain. Why do we only have one independent national radio station? Why should Cork only have one "youth" station when Red FM comes on? Why should the BCI decide what the market wants?

On to the ownership topic next:

Now that any group is allowed to own 100% of one station (including national) or 15% of all the radio stations in the country, what does this mean for ownership of our independent sector? Does it matter who owns radio stations, or indeed does it matter and of course is it enforceable for "local ethos" and "local management" to be foisted on radio operators? Would it make a bit of difference if 98FM for instance was owned by Denis O Brien or EMAP? Given that radio licences are treated like gold dust until they are issued (witness Radio Ireland, Spin FM and NewsTalk) is the real argument not regulation of ownership or content but of competition?

Given the BCI's stated position of using light touch regulation, are the above new requirements even less relevant? Will new contracts, tough as they may be actually be enforceable given the BCI/IRTCs complete lack of action in the past on contract breaches (witness Today FM again).

Given that the BCI say that the only thing holding them back on further licensing in Dublin is apparently lack of frequencies, how come Dublin seems to have less available frequencies in total than any other European city. No independent station operates below 94fm

(bar a few relays) in Ireland. Does the combination of "ah sure the markets too small" along with "theres no frequencies" and "we have to protect the ethos" not just lead to us having the most backward radio system in Europe?

Before you answer these questions in haste, Id ask you to just check out how other radio systems work. Even countries like the Netherlands which previously were radio disaster areas seem to be sorting themselves out now. Even London is getting there (see below). Yet we insist on protecting the market from itself and in return the people of Ireland dont get the radio service they should, and talented broadcasters have the choice of either fit the small range of formats, or leave.

Discuss please!

*London Stations:

Virgin Radio, Active 107.5 FM, BBC London Live, Capital FM, Capital Gold, Choice FM, FLR, Heart 106.2,ITN News Direct, Jazz FM, Kiss, LBC, Liberty Radio, London Greek Radio, LTR ,Magic 105.4, Millennium Radio, Premier Radio, Ritz Country 1035, Spectrum International,

Sunrise Radio, Thames Radio, XFM. Also of course BBC Radio 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Live, TalkSport, Virgin 1215. Thats 30. Next week we can look at Rome or Madrid or Porto!

Edited by - Mister807 on 24/10/2001 00:22:20

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 24/10/2001 : 00:59:33

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On the issue of ownership rules, I think the BCI's softening of the regulations will mean that many of the more profitable local stations will be gobbled up by major (foreign) radio groups. Now that the rules have changed Scottish Radio Holdings are poised to increase their stake in Today FM from 29% to 100%. The good news is that, as UK groups go, SRH is not a great believer in automation and networking. I suspect though, that GWR will take an interest some stations, particularly in Dublin, Galway, Cork and Limerick. If you though radio was bland now.....check out www.koko.com and select any of the listed stations. Apart from the names, they are all identical right down to the logo, what they call their breakfast show and even the features! I hope we never suffer that fate, if we do I'll eat my words and become a pirate!!

AS for the allocation of licences, I suspect that it was done more on a political basis than a population or demand one. For example, Tipp got three franchises in the original hand out of 1989, WHY??? When the new licence plates were introduced in 1987 each county got one designation, except Tipp!!! They got two. Perhaps we should look at who the TD's for that region were between 1986 and 1989.

North West Listener

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To Irish Mike:

Perhaps you should find out who represented Tipperary back in 1904! The current registration system in the Republic, introduced in 1987, adopted an already split Co. Tipperary - See this URL for details:

http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/english/reg/GB/orig.html

The pre-1987 registrations were originally introduced on an all-Ireland basis. Derry City's registrations still operate under this system (UI). I don't know if Tyrone and Fermanagh are still getting JI and IL plates respectively - They were until very recently. I have even seen a few OI (old Belfast) and IA (old Co. Antrim) plates in my time, and I'm not all that old!

I don't understand why Limerick and Waterford get separate plates for the city and county, while Cork and Galway (which both have sizeable areas outside the cities) don't!

Imagine if they introduced the Republic's current system in Northern Ireland - the rows and whinging that would go on about whether it should be DY or LY!!!

As for Co's Laois, Westmeath and Offaly sharing a radio franchise, while Tipperary was offered three......................now there's a conundrum! Mind you, as we speak, significant parts of Northern Ireland officially have NO local radio station! Obviously, there is overspill of licensed stations operating in both Northern Ireland and the Republic into other areas, but the following areas have no licensed local station of their own - All of Co. Fermanagh, much of Co. Tyrone (Strabane is officially in Q102's franchise area). I don't know exactly what area Cool FM is licensed to cover, but I regard it as more of a regional station than a local station anyway. If you consider it as a regional station, that leaves Co. Armagh, much of Co. Down, even more of Co. Tyrone, south Co. Derry and parts of Co. Antrim (i.e. those parts not covered under the licences of Belfast Citybeat and Q97.2) with no local station. I know about Q102 getting the Enniskillen/Omagh area licence, and about the licence up for grabs in mid-Ulster - but what I have outlined is the way it is TODAY.

 

Irish Mike

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Thanks for the registration info North West Listener, having grown up in Dublin I was never well up on the history of the registration system! It still doesn't explain why Tipp got three local licences in 1989!!

As for the lack of choice in Northern Ireland, as much as we'd like to blame the IRTC/BCI unfortunately they're innocent this time. It's the fault of the Radio Authority. If you've read anything on MediaUK.com you'll realise that they (radio authority) seem to be unaware of any great population centres outside England.

 

 

 

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CD`s New Topic Reply to Topic

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 19/10/2001 : 13:53:26

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ok this is a real anoraks question..very sad, I know

but this format is dying in radio.....

when were CDs first used on radio in this country....who was the first station to use them.....nova, sunshine, radio 2??.

If so when/what was the first song to be played on CD on Irish radio??

I have recordings of Gerry Ryan in '86 playing Duran Duran, Waterboys, stating that they were played on CD....(very exciting at the time!!)

so come on...who was first??....was it before '86(I would say, yes)

 

Arnold

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I know that Greg Townsend on Premier played music from CD towards the end of 84. There were 3 CDs by Level 42, Ultravox and The Human League. He worked in Harry Moores and used to borrow the demo model CD player from the shop for Sundays!

 

North West Listener

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To lights out:

Can't help but notice that your user name was the title of the 10p.m.-midnight slot on Radio 2 (as it was then) back in 1986. You are obviously aware that Gerry Ryan presented this on weeknights, and you probably remember that Andy Ruane did the show at the weekend. Andy kept the sig tune for a lot longer than Gerry - Who sang that? Had any of this any bearing on your choice of user name?

Would like to hear Andy back on the radio, even once a week - Maybe he's too busy with his current work. I remember him doing the weeknights 8-10 slot on 2FM (around 1990 or so) - At this time, Dave Fanning had moved from 8-10 to 10-1. Andy played a lot of my kind of music and had a great personality for radio.

Don't know who was first with the CD's.

 

lights out

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Hi North West Listener!!...yeah!, you`re right....took the name from gerrys show, which I listened to every night as a 7/8/9 yr. old!! what a great show, sandwiched between Fanning and Cagney - one of the best line ups 2FM ever had. don't remember the sig. tune though!.

Andy Ruane has to be one of my favourite jocks...would be great to hear him back. his show from 8-10 weekday nites was great around the summer of `90...he then did other stuff at 2FM...done the top 30 request show on a Sunday around `94....last I heard him on 2FM was in '95 filling in for Peter Collins(another great loss) at the wknds(12-2 am)

you gotta give 2FM credit, in the past they have had some fine shows, the likes we will never see there again.

 

North West Listener

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I was very young back in 1986 too, although I had made it into double figures!

The sig tune was some guy shouting, "Lights out, aw-haw! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Lights out, aw-haw! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!". I think Andy played it in full one time. It wasn't particularly my type of music (i.e. the sig tune), but since they only played 7 seconds or so of it, it sounded good at the start. Andy used to follow it up with his lively musical jingle, "Andy Ruane on Radio 2".

With absolutely NO OFFENCE intended to Gerry, the music was definitely more to my taste when Andy did the show - more poppy!

Do you remember the record review from 10.30 to 11.00 on a Thursday night?

Also, do you remember the station (pre 1987) used to close at 1.50 a.m. - seemingly always with that same male voice-over - "Radio 2, 2, 2(fade out!)". They obviously were entitled to broadcast exactly 19.5 hours per day as they used to open at 6.20 a.m. by playing really awful music (not pop!) until programmes would start at 6.30. I only remember hearing this start-up once, but someone else had already informed me about it!

You seeem like someone who would remember the 1986 schedule!

6.30 - 9.00 - Marty Whelan

9.00 - 11.30 - Jimmy Greeley (This would be simulcast on the odd bank holiday with RTE2 television - "The Jimmy Greeley Picture Show"!).

11.30 - 2.00 - Larry Gogan

2.00 - 4.30 - Ian Dempsey (Ian and Larry later swapped places - still in 1986, I think)

4.30 - 7.00 - Jim O' Neill (Wasn't it "Thing" you called his wee "friend" with the funny voice? Was this Jim himself?).

7.00 - 8.00 - "The Hotline" with Barry Lang - Not a very fair show for people up in this part of the country as the songs were listed in the "Evening Herald", a paper which is not sold here! Why couldn't they have put them in one of the national papers (I know the Evening Herald is circulated over a wide area, but it isn't a national paper!) - Irish Press, Irish Times or Irish Independent? It more than likely wasn't Barry who was to blame for this, though!

8.00 - 10.00 - Dave Fanning

10.00 - 12.00 - "Lights Out" with Gerry Ryan

12.00 - 1.50 - "Night Train" with Mark Cagney (Mike Moloney at weekends)

I know that the way that this thread has developed would make it more at home in the Nostalgia section, but I don't think that any reasonable person could begrudge it being held here!

lights out

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yeah, remember that schedule well.

The Jimmy Greeley picture show was very exciting to watch (discussed here before), because they only had a few videos to show (fore-runner of Beatbox and 2TV), and when they didn't have any video to show for a particular song, they would just play the song an vinyl and leave the cameras running in the studio--what I would give for a few clips of that show!!.

do u remember the one show that they were spinning studio plants on the decks(Easter 86, I think)-will never forget that for some reason!!

I am very hazy about wknd schedules on 2FM in the 80s, I do remember though..Michael McNamara ALWAYS did oldies + sport on wknd afternoons.

.....Hugh O`Brien did Sat. mornings...Simon Young or Maxi did breakfasts????...do U know what was on wknd nights???(Tony Fenton???).....12"s on 2 was on from 87.....Top 30 with Larry Sunday at 12 noon.

I could go on....keep posting anyone/NWL!!!

 

 

North West Listener

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Only saw the Jimmy Greeley Picture Show for a few minutes. Didn't see the rotating plants!

2FM changed their weekend schedule around the summer of 1986. During the first months of that year, Hugh O'Brien did 6-9 on both Sat. and Sun. (had a very distinctive end sig. tune (jazz) - anyone know what it is?). B.P. Fallon did what I would describe as a specialist programme from 9-10, again, as far as I remember, on both nights. 10-12 was "Lights Out" with Andy Ruane, 12-1.50 was "Night Train" with Mike Moloney. Can't remember who did weekend breakfast. I think that Simon Young presented "Poporama", a programme for children on Saturday mornings. Tony Fenton was on Saturdays around noon or so. Maxi was on Sunday mornings, featuring guest presenters in studios around the country - very requests based - hard to imagine a programme like this on 2FM today. I'm 99% sure that Paul Clarke (UTV) used to be one of these guest presenters. Larry used to do the Top 30 on a Sunday afternoon (1-3, I think). Michael McNamara, as you say, did weekend afternoons.

When they changed the schedule that summer, Colm Hayes started - Sundays at 6 p.m.. I think that Paul Scanlon was on Saturday nights from 7-9 p.m.. and I think that Mark Cagney was on Saturdays from 5.30-7. BP Fallon may have gone to just one programme per week. It may have been at this time that Andy Ruane changed slightly to doing Friday and Saturday nights, with Gerry Ryan on the other nights. Hugh O'Brien wasn't on any more, and I think that Mike Moloney replaced Mark Cagney on the weeknights on "Night Train". Who did it at the weekend?

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wow! thanx for that info.

BP Fallon did the BP Fallon Orchestra, where he basically interviewed and played music from that artist. This ran for a few years.

 

didn't Cagney replace Jim O`Neill on drive??, wasn't suited here at all, he was excellent on the night train.

Was it Peter Collins or John Clarke who did wknd breakfasts?

Poporamma was def. Simon Young with Ruth Buchannan and later Teresa Lowe (Peter Collins also did this show with Teresa in 88.

Fentons first show on Radio 2 was Slane night 85, when Springsteen played, don`t know the exact slot.

Paul Clarke was defintely on Radio 2, I think he had a wknd show of his own, while on UTV.

Robbie Irwin(now RTE sport) produced Lights out and later had his own show around 87-88(dont know slot)

Clarke may have done night-train at the wknd on the new schedule.

Wasn't Gerry Wilson the first voice on overnights when they went 24 hr, along with a different jock every night- Paul Scanlon, Bob Conway, Mike Ryan (wheres he now??)

a whole load of jocks joined 2FM in 88, and a whole lot left!!.

I could actually(so could U!!), give the year every jock came and went over the years in 2FM!

 

 

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I couldn't actually give you the exact year every jock came and went on Radio 2/ 2FM!

I'm sure you know that Radio 2 went 24 hours on 31st May 1987. I remember Maxi announcing that the station would be there for eternity! It wasn't to be - Remember the strike (Spring 1992) when they closed down every night after their presenter-free music all day? I'd love to know who was responsible for that music - 2FM was great for music during the strike!!! No presenters, but there were jingles. I think that 2FM's jingles were better then than they are now!

John Clarke probably did do the Night Train at weekends. He was certainly doing the late night slot on Fridays in the early-mid 90's or so. Remember his musical jingle - he seemed to be the only one with a jingle like that - I think I heard it on a clip from Radio Nova (Dublin) which I heard elsewhere on the internet last year.

I think it was some time later than 1986 when Mark Cagney took over from Jim O'Neill on drive - 1987??!!? Jim O'Neill was on Radio Nova International (on satellite) by late 1988. Radio Nova in Fahan, Co. Donegal, relayed it at night-time for a while. My question is - When did Jim O'Neill leave Radio Nova and did he do any other radio before joining Today FM?

Things were so different back in early 1986 in terms of FM pop radio here in this part of the North West. We had a choice of two pop stations on FM - Yes TWO!!! Perhaps we should have been grateful! I'm sure there were places with only one (Radio 2), and parts of Northern Ireland far from the border may not have had any! We had RTE Radio 2 and a local pirate station called City Sound Radio - which played great music, although it would go off-air for long periods of time! It broadcast to parts of counties Derry and Donegal. It eventually became the aforementioned Radio Nova (Donegal). Now on FM there are the following pop stations (I'm not passing any comments, good or bad, just listing) - Today FM, BBC Radio 1, Q102, Q97.2, Drive 105 (pirate station). Then there are pop programmes on the stations which cover a wide range of music - ICR FM, Downtown Radio, Highland Radio.

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If memory serves me right, lights out was a stateside hit for Peter Wolf during the early to mid 80's. A bit of a one hit wonder, I think.

 

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Lights out mentioned earlier that Hugh O'Brien was on Sat. mornings. Maybe he did this after leaving the 6-9 slot (I had previously posted that he wasn't on any more after leaving that slot). Hasn't he done some radio work since? Where?

Is Paul Scanlon still on radio? I remember he had a really good voice for radio.

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21 Posts Posted - 22/10/2001 : 16:25:49

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we still have not solved the CD question!!!

I do remember the RTE strike- they must have raided the sound library-some great music played, everynight ended with 'ABBA-Thank u for the music'. I wonder was the music on tape or were the CD players manned??-There was news, as far as I remember. not sure how long the strike was for?

Anyway, here is a list of when jocks came and went in Radio 2/2FM:

Tony Fenton -came 85-still there

Ian Dempsey -came 80-left 98

Barry Lang -came 80-left 97

Lorcan Murray -came 88-left 98

Mickey Mac -came 79-left 99

John Kenny -came 88-still there(sport)

Gerry Ryan -came 79-still there

Vincent Hanley -came 79-RIP 86

Ronan Collins- came 79-left to radio 1 86

Mike Moloney- came 83-left 2000

Gerry Wilson -came 88-left 2001

Colm Hayes -came 86-left 89

John Clarke -came 85-still there

John Power -came 98-still there

Bob Conway - came 88-left 2000

Paschal Mooney -came 79-left 85

Dave Fanning -came 79-still there

Andy Ruane -came 85-left 95

Damien McCaul -came 96-still there

Peter Collins -came 85-left 99

Declan Meehan -came 79-left 81

Jim O`Neill -came 79-left 87

 

some good shows from over the years also:-

Dial-a-number 1(G.Wilson 90/91 Saturday)

Get it off your chest (G.Wilson 90/91 Week nights)

The dance show (Simon Young late 80s, early 90s)

Lights Out(G.Ryan early 80s-88)

Barry Lang's drive(late 80s-97)

Ian Dempsey breakfasts(Mid 80s-98)

Hotline(Tony Fenton 87-97)

 

lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 22/10/2001 : 16:30:45

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NWL- Hugh O`Brien moved to England (I think)

Was on Lite FM, now has moved to the new Dublin's Country station.

Paul Scanlon was on RTE Radio Cork, until it closed down last year. Don`t know where he is now-was very funny on overnites!!.

 

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great memeories keep it coming but how do you remember all that stuff?? are u guys anoraks? .........nah, didn't think so!

 

coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 23/10/2001 : 03:42:42

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You have a great memory there Lights Out. Good Stuff. PS - did you post on the old board under Maverick by any chance?

lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 23/10/2001 : 13:54:42

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no, I never posted on the old board as Maverick....BUT I did post!!

one final comment...Tony Fenton used to use a music bed during his time on the hotline by The Alan Parsons project 'Mammagamma' was what it was called....a lovely, moody piece of music(used on Lite FM now for the community noticeboard!!!)...perfect for that 80s era....available on audiogalaxy NOW!!

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27 Posts Posted - 26/10/2001 : 08:23:01

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THE FIRST CD PLAYED ON IRISH RADIO TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE WAS AIRED ON Q102 BY GREG GAUGHRAN AND IT WAS A DIRE STRAITS TRACK, POSSIBLY SULTANS OF SWING.

ROBBIE IRWIN PRESENTED AN OVERNIGHT SHOW (SAT INTO SUN) ON 2FM AND LATER LEFT TO TAKE UP THE POST OF ASSISTANT PROGRAMME CONTROLLER OF CENTRUY RADIO.

WHEN HE LEFT HE WENT TO WORK FOR THE SPORTS DEPT AT RTE TELEVISION AND HE LEFT THERE TO BECOME HEAD OF SPORT AT RADIO IRELAND/TODAY FM.

WHEN HE LEFT ?? THERE HE ONCE AGAIN RETURNED TO THE RTE SPORTS DEPARTMENT.

ANYONE KNOW WHERE MARK STOREY IS CURRENTLY WORKING.

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The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 26/10/2001 : 21:49:57

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This from a news site today:

According to a notice on the website, the owners of IRAradio.com have decided to temporarily shut down the site, in light of recently enacted U.S. laws which enable the federal government to seize the assets of suspected terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.

Travis Towle, founder and CEO of Cosmic Entertainment, the Kansas-based owner of the service, stresses that his organization "does not and will not support terrorism of any kind." The site even addresses American and British government intelligence and security organizations in stressing, "This is a news web site!..This web site is for Irish news & media coverage with regard to the ongoing British presence in the occupied six counties of Ireland with a view toward correcting misrepresentations..."

Note that the letters "IRA" in the station name stand for "Irish Republican Activist." They typically are known to stand for "Irish Republican Army," the militant Irish Catholic nationalist organization in British-controlled Northern Ireland, an organization often associated with terrorist activity.

 

www.iraradio.com

actually some of cosmic radio's stations are ok. Check out it's main site

http://www.cosmicradio.com/

 

 

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28 Posts Posted - 26/10/2001 : 12:29:16

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HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYMORE ABOUT NEWSTALK, I WOULDNT MIND A WEEKEND GIG READING OR SOMETHING,WILL THEY NEED PT STRINGERS?HAS ANYONE APPLIED, WHAT ARE SALARY SCALES?

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52 Posts Posted - 26/10/2001 : 18:25:45

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aaaaawwwwwwwwww , holy jasus !

 

 

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HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYMORE ABOUT NEWSTALK,I WOULDNT MIND A WEEKEND GIG READING OR SOMETHING,WILL THEY NEED PT STRINGERS?HAS ANYONE APPLIED, WHAT ARE SALARY SCALES?

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James,

Fyi - It's actually very bad manners to post everything in caps. It's a sign of shouting on the internet..and nobody likes being shouted at.

You should get in contact with Paul Kavanagh for a job @ Newstalk..using upper and lower case!

Thanks in advance,

Radio Presenter

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Radio Mad

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46 Posts Posted - 14/10/2001 : 15:51:05

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The following piece appeared on Friday's Guardian Media website:

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Jason Deans

Thursday October 11, 2001

BBC Radio 5 Live and TalkSport are to face a new national competitor in the radio sports broadcasting market, following a change of ownership at Atlantic 252.

The Republic of Ireland-based long-wave dance music station is to be

relaunched as a sports-based service, after sports internet and radio outfit TEAMtalk Media bought RTL's 80% stake.

"When the station is relaunched we will have a national radio presence that will enable TEAMtalk's sports content to be broadcast over mainstream media and I am looking forward to driving the new format in the UK marketplace," said TEAMtalk's chairman and chief executive, Bill Wilson.

TEAMtalk has paid £2m in cash for the RTL holding, as part of a deal

expected to be completed by the end of November. Irish state broadcaster RTÉ is to retain the remaining 20% stake in Atlantic 252.

Last year Atlantic 252 reported a loss before tax of £480,000, on sales of just under £4m.

The Atlantic 252 acquisition is TEAMtalk's third move into the radio

market this year, following deals to buy German radio sports producer

Sport-Redaktion and UK in-store broadcaster Hampson Radio.

Edited by - Radio Mad on 14/10/2001 15:53:06

 

Sid_Snott007

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Even though there are people who post here that are staff members of Atlantic 252 I feel that their campaign is on a hiding to nothing.

I honestly think that moving A252 to a talk based service is a good one. Music services are only really worth listening to on FM or the new DAB which is on test in the UK at present.

Even though the transition to talk based will be a painful one for those loosing their jobs I feel that the writing has being on the wall for some time.

So I think a big "WELL DONE" to all of those that have being involved since "Sowing the Seeds of Love" roared out of Co. Meath, but roll on the talk based service and give us something decent to listen to instead of Myles Dungen prattling on about the oarts!!!!!

 

 

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 31/10/2001 : 15:52:06

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God man, the word's BEEN. Not being.

Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 31/10/2001 : 17:07:14

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sorrie eye ame a lytle lisdexic! ! ! !

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I hate to harp back to the one on the dimmest days in humanity (September the 11th) but to anyone who was travelling by car that day I am sure you will agree with me that this mindless tragedy has made for compelling radio particularly on RTE Radio 1.

Normally as I hear the out of tune warble of the "Rattlebag" sig tune I thump the radio in a vain hope of activating the CD player so I don't have to hear Myles Dungen prattle on about the aoarts.

But on that tragic day RTE did what they do best NEWS!!!!

I though that their coverage was outstanding and a clear example that showed the afternoon schedule is not working over at the high brow Donnybrook station.

Anyone have any thoughts on this ???? Personally I feel that the FM and AM services should be split and a talk / news based service be placed on AM and a Steve Wright type BBC R2 style prog be put on FM. THAT IS IF GARETH O'CALLAGHAN WOULD STOP RIPPING HIM OFF and possibly put the arts shoe on after tea time etc.....

Thoughts any one.......

 

 

Radio Mad

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46 Posts Posted - 31/10/2001 : 23:53:01

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A 24-hour a day all talk station is long over due and badly needed in this country. Splitting RTE 1 into separate AM and FM stations is an idea that should be explored.

I am a huge fan of BBC Radio 5 Live and feel that a similar service here is something we should be given.

Don't hold your breath though. The government has shown itself to be very inept when it comes to providing proper radio choice.

Ah well, at least we have the BBC.

 

 

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Irelands PD

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11 Posts Posted - 03/11/2001 : 01:21:19

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Notice on 98's website that all traces of Martin King have been removed! The show he presented is now done by Robbie Fogarty which leaves the mysterious question of what happened??

 

When is TeamTALK 252 coming on air?

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5 Posts Posted - 02/11/2001 : 23:23:17

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Does anyone know, or have any inside info as to when Atlantic 252 as we know it, will no longer exist?

 

 

Radio Mad

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46 Posts Posted - 02/11/2001 : 23:55:39

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According to their own website, Teamtalk state that it will be the end of the financial year before the format changes. To the best of my knowledge, that means April 2002.

Padmund

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I could be wrong - and stand to be corrected - but is April the UK or Irish Financial Year ? Did it not change in the last budget to December to makes things all nice and easy for euro change-over ?

As i say i could be wrong

P.

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pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 28/09/2001 : 20:18:45

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Have just purchased Howard Stern's autobiography; "Private Parts"

Anyone out there in radio land read it? Any good?

PMF

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 30/09/2001 : 16:25:56

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I'm on chapter 3 and the book is unputdownable (if thats a word;)) Well worth checking. Now I know where were our very own Stuttering John got his name from.

How do y'all feel about Stern?? Over rated or, is he as he is known, the "king of media"? I think he directly influenced the likes of Steve Wright on his Radio 1 stint many years back. G O'C then followed Wright's lead and today Zoo Radio is still very much alive with the likes of The Dog House on Energy 94

Comments?

pulse-8

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Virtually every wild/personality dj has copied or been influenced by Howard stern or people who were influenced by him in the first place.

Yes, shows like the doghouse on pulse in the late 90's (never heard it on energy), the strawberry alarm clock on 104 (up to recently), chris evans when he was on virgin (or more so on radio 1), and now people like chris moyles on BBC radio 1 and that guy on freedom (don't know his name- good potential) all have been influenced by Howard stern or people who have been influenced by him or people who were influenced by other people who were.....you know what I mean.

I think many wild/personality type djs have been influenced by him at some stage. Charlie wolf (252), Timmy mallet and even 2fms Gerry Ryan in the good early days perhaps and john o'hara (on energy 103 in the 80s)!!I have seen the movie but not read the book but may do so soon.

Movie is full of "pro-messing" on air and breaking the rules and big ratings.

 

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 05/10/2001 : 21:47:39

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Howard stern is great although it can be said that he has his moments. I have listened to many a show where he just talks ****e for the sake of talking. However when he is good he is very good

 

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 18:04:44

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Jackie the joke man seems to have gone from the Howard stern show in the last few weeks after a fight with Howard re: his contract. A series of guest comedians will now feature on the show until a replacement is found.

Stuttering John still appears to be on board as does Robin

coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 18:36:15

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Have you a link there John for listening to the show live? Cheers

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 17/10/2001 : 21:31:44

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Howard Stern's show is not webcast officially because of rights issues. (I think today fm have this same problem with webcasting football on a sat on their site)

Anytime I have come across his show online it is either a recording on a fan's website or through about 10 links after surfing and just finding it. 2 previous links I had bookmarked are now gone!!!

As soon as I find a new way to listen I will post it here for ya pal!!!

 

Pumping Tonight

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Ok! OK OK!!

So, many of you listen to Howard right?

Right, well I dare you to say "the big black lesbian's filled with lust" - just like Howard did on one of his banned Christmas shows.

How would the newly formed "BCI" view such a statement following the death notices and just before the official cattle prices for the bay area?

 

coo coo kachoo

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20 Posts Posted - 18/10/2001 : 03:08:13

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lol

Thats some funny **** PT

I can just hear them on CKR now

 

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 28/10/2001 : 16:12:33

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Finished the book. A great read on several different levels. Anoraks will disappointed to hear that he doesn't focus TOO much on talk of radio (particularly in the books latter half) but there's enough there to keep you happy.

Now I've discovered Simon Bates' biography - My Tune. I stumbled upon this second hand and, one chapter in, it looks promising. Hopefully it'll give a good insight to the early days of BBC Radio 1.

 

 

 

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I haven't read the book, but I've seen the film (in fact I saw it again last week) and some scenes of it were an absolute riot. Best bit of the lot being the scene where on a Washington radio station he made a woman orgasm on the air! The "Match Maker" game on Dubya NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNBC was also a laugh.

I've so much to catch up on!

--------------------------------------------------"Do you keep the receipts for all the friends that you buy?....."

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DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 17:07:45

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Now that it looks like we're going to see the end of Atlantic 252 over the next few weeks I have two thoughts;

1. I want to wish all their current staff the best over the next few weeks. Radio is an unstable business and I hope that everyone working there gets work elsewhere.

and

 

2. Some anoraking! What are peoples memories of Atlantic 252, favourite moments, jocks, songs? What gave them that magic that they had in the early 1990's?

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 17:56:28

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James Whale and of course Charlie Wolf and Andrew in the morning. That show really helped me get up in the morning. There is only 2 other breakfast shows EVER that I felt this way about

Pat Courtney and the morning crew (Lisa and Bob) on Energy 103, never was the same on 98fm

and Chris Evans on radio 1, never was the same on virgin.

Maybe it is the lack of ads or small amount of ads/clutter that ties the above shows together but who knows they are my favouite 3!!

should this thread not be in the nostalgia section though?

Enterprise

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9 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:31:30

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My best moment was when the A252 road show was in Newry many years ago the station will be missed and I WILL not be listening to this Teamtalk ****

DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 15/10/2001 : 19:39:42

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This thread probably fits into both 'legal' and 'nostalgia' forums. However, as Atlantic are still on the air I decided to be nice and put it in this section.

Its a cliche I know, but I always thought the station was best from 1992-1994 during its Robin Banks days. Much respect to John O Hara though, the music's still fantastic on 252.

Could the station have been saved? Could Atlantic 252 continue as a music station? Or was the end inevitable?

Keep 'em coming!

 

 

fmfreddie

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all the fun aside , DD , I believe 252 could have been saved from this dreadful curse that is about to unleashed on it.......non stop sports sh~t!

I personally would have loved to see it going down the road of a 80's and 90's station with longwaves of hits from back then , imagine that eh , cool!

The thing I liked about 252 was you could always be sure of a good tune when you switch it on, and lets face it , 252 put a lot of artists where they are now , with their first releases being heard non stop on 252 with hot jocks like dusty , Hollywood or robin.

I liked the promotions they carried out , like the "his and hers jeeps for keeps" thing was excellent and they made a pile of cash outta that with the premium rate numbers involved.

Can anyone else think of what else they gave away?

Pumping Tonight

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Well this certainly is quite a rogues gallery of postings about my beloved LONGWAVE GIANT!

My memories are all great of this place...

Giveaways: Charlie Wolf's Rotten Sneaker Contest, The Daily Star "Name Game" "Win a part in Baywatch" (has to be said in a Henry v/o voice)

Songs: Janet&Luther, Aftershock, REM Sidewinder sleeps, B52's Loveshack, and millions more "HOT SONGS" I will take particular credit for recent additions to ze playlist like Sarah Connor and TQ's "Let's get back to bed boy" a tune I personally recommended to Jamie months back and is now pumping out as I type following it's debut @ no.14 in the UK Top 40.

Moments: Spinning Carts on The Wild West Party in 1990 LIVE!

The Saturday Night Party(Pizza slavin' over a HOT SAC2000! and using as much electricity as possible combined with every button and fader on the desk in EVERY link!) Tony West playing to a packed Ardboyne Hotel, Navan in 1990, Robin Banks at the door saying: "Welcome, come in, my friend"

The (alleged as I was only told afterwards) look on certain begrudgers faces of ASTONISHMENT at the news I had finally gotten the gig on Atlantic 252 after all the years! - and the week after someone made the comment "guess he's given up on Atlantic now.." on a previous horrid incarnation of this board!

As a listener from day one on the Test Broadcast (where the 1st EVER song 252 played was "Ain't Nobody - Chaka Khan")to today where I actually present programmes on LONGWAVE I have to say that for me it is very sad indeed to see Atlantic not be Atlantic anymore and for it to be something other than what it has ALWAYS been for me:

THE HOME OF THE HITS.

Also I might add that Atlantic has only ever had 1 true Co.Meath on air jock fulltime and I am he - AFTER ALL WE'RE BROADCASTING FROM THE ROYAL COUNTY ! Another first!

Hope we have A BIIIG Closedown.

 

 

 

coo coo kachoo

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And i hope you get a gig. You deserve it.

Richardlogue

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2 Posts Posted - 16/10/2001 : 12:54:55

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I'll be sorry to see the back of Atlantic 252 but in my opinion selling the frequency to this Teamtalk crowd was a complete waste of a national resource.

They would be far better off relaying RTÉ Radio 1 on 252 kHz to allow us in Britain to pick up Radio 1 properly at last.

Bob

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They would be far better off relaying RTÉ Radio 1 on 252 kHz to allow us in Britain to pick up Radio 1 properly at last.

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Why don't you get a $kyDigibox with or without free BBC FTV card?

RTÉ Radio 1 is available free to air on Ch. 892 and there are no subscription obligations for any $ky "service" to receive it!

Regards,

Bob.

 

 

lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 16/10/2001 : 13:45:36

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where do u start??

252 is/was THE station

will give a more detailed post later, FULL OF PERSONAL MEMOIRES.

hope there will be a big closedown ...doubt it though!

whens the last day

any chance of getting into Mornington House for a final anoraking, I wonder?. YOU KNOW THE BIG, SCARY PINK/PURPLE HOUSE??

WHY....are the Irish government letting this happen.....you`d sware we were all sports freaks....THERE IS ENOUGH SPORTS ON TV AND RADIO......WHY TAKE AWAY THE MIGHTY 252????

DeargDoom

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Now I've sussed out who you are 'pumping tonight'. I know that you are a big 252 fan, and I genuinely wish you and anyone else I know up in Trim the best over the next couple of months. I know this deal makes sense financially, but its a real shame to see Atlantic 252 go.

I remember 252 playing Right Said Fred non-stop during 1991 (but they did play good songs too!), and as you said the B52's were huge on Atlantic in 1990.

I remember the early closedowns when they'd try to persuade listeners to go over to Luxy on 1440 instead. Like that was gonna happen!

It would be interesting to see how 252 fared in Ireland over the years. I know they aren't included on the JNLRs, but radio station tracking in Dublin featured them. Anyone know what numbers 252 were doing in Ireland during the good days?

If there is a 'closedown' for Atlantic before the re-launch, how should it be handled? Any ideas anyone?

 

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I'm still working out how to get the $ky Digibox to work in the car, which is where I do most of my radio listening....

Teamtalk is a waste of valuable airspace.

 

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I'll get me coat.......

 

 

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ah yes the memories

charlie wolf

andrew turner

mary ellen o'brien

tony west

gary king

james whale

dusty rhodes

henry owens

batman ? (Liam Coburn)

and paul kavannagh doing the liners followed by an american

remember the 252 roadshow. I saw it in hollywood nights

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Just a word of caution with my corporate hat on here people. Don't presume that Atlantic will be sold to TeamTalk just yet. Lot of water to pass under the bridge before the sale goes through. Nothing is signed, and other deals are on the table apparently. I'm sure more details will emerge over the coming weeks.

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I can't really comment on Atlantic 252's quality as it wasn't my type of station and I never listened for any considerable length of time.

It's sister station, Radio Luxembourg, filled a much needed void for many years, but it's eventual demise came when listeners chose to switch over, in ever increasing numbers, to stations broadcasting on the superior quality, FM band.

For that reason, I consider it a credit to them and a source of great amazement to me how Atlantic managed to survive so long in the marketplace.

They were obviously supplying something that just wasn't available anywhere else on the radio bands here and in the UK.

Digital radio platforms are now coming on-stream, which undoubtedly will herald a whole now concept in radio listening. In my view, the inevitable shift in listening patterns will result in even more stations changing ownership and/or programming content, such as the one we are witnessing at present.

 

 

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what memories we all have of 252.......keep posting

who remembers....

Paul Kavanagh,Henry Owens and Al Dunne, mary ellen o brien

breakfast shows from Charlie & Andrew, Kevin & Andrew, Steve Hayes, and Marc Brow.

Dusty Rhodes (drivetime), Robin Banks (at night), Sandy Beech(love letters in the sand), Rick O`Shea

'Our Tune' from Simon Bates(yes...!!!)

songs they played to death in the early 90s:-

sweet sensation-love child, depeche mode-enjoy the silence, KD Lang(!)-Constant craving, KLF-what time is love, gabrielle-dreams, robin s- show me love.....etc..etc.

remember they would take raps out of certain songs- i.e.-Janet/Luther, Snow-Informer, erasure-Take a chance on me.

remember a kinda be-bop gold show around '90, on a Sunday afternoon??

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I am not really familiar with Atlantic's current output, but I certainly liked a lot of the music they played in the early-mid 90's. I remember listening to their test broadcasts before they launched in September 1989. Certainly remember the 7.00 closedown. Also remember that it would frequently go off-air for a period of seconds at a time - I heard somewhere that this was due to birds sitting on the mast! Anyone know was this true, or what the reason was? Does it still go off for short bursts like this?

Atlantic was ideal for those looking to hear pop music who were travelling long distances, listening to car radios. Now that RDS radios are in many vehicles, I assume that the likes of Today FM, 2FM and BBC Radio 1 have taken away a lot of these listeners, who previously may have found it too inconvenient to retune as they travelled around the country.

The thing that I found sad about Atlantic was that they missed a golden opportunity to provide a genuine Ireland and Great Britain-wide radio station (I understand that it didn't stretch to all parts of Great Britain, but I think the majority of land was covered). A prime example was that they used to (maybe still do?) give out the phone number in a way which was geared to those calling from the U.K.. There was seemingly initially an intention to make it sound as though it was coming from London - When it first started the code for London from the U.K. was 01 - At the same time, the code for the Republic of Ireland from the U.K. was 010-353 - They used to give the number as 01-0353-463-6.... I don't recall any announcements along the lines of "If you're calling from here in the Irish Republic, the number is 046-36....". I know there were Irish presenters, but the station came across (probably through decisions made by those in authority over the presenters) as an U.K. station. I feel that they missed a golden opportunity to be something bigger. BBC Radio 1, to my knowledge, doesn't serve Galway (I'm talking about ordinary radios, not satellite or internet). Today FM and 2FM don't (I am sure), in the same way, serve Manchester. Atlantic had an opportunity to reach out in a real way to both, but didn't (I'm assuming here that there is a decent reception to Atlantic in Galway! If not, choose another location!). Fair enough, people in the Republic could hear and perhaps enjoy the music, but they were always 'left out in the cold' somewhat. It could have been a unique way to unite the young people of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales in a common interest.

However, I would like to finish by saying that I DO NOT WANT A SPORTS STATION ON 252 LW - I WANT A POP STATION!!!! Despite what I have said above, I'd far rather Atlantic 252 to be on this frequency than a sports station! Also, I hope that anyone who is suited to a career in radio who loses their job as a result of this gets something appropriate.

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To quote fmfreddie:

"I personally would have loved to see it going down the road of a 80's and 90's station with longwaves of hits from back then , imagine that eh , cool!"

If it could be like that for about 80% of the music, mixed in with upbeat music from this millennium, and with good presentation, I think I would be a listener!

One thing on this thread particularly interests me. The radio industry is really male dominated - My guess is that the majority of people who use this board are also male. Perhaps some people think that a sports station would be a 'winner' with the men. With this in mind, there are a lot of comments against the idea of a sports station on this frequency. I assume that fmfreddie and Richardlogue are male! I don't know about Enterprise or lights out. Certainly I (and I am a male!) am not at all in favour of it becoming a sports station.

Finally, to briefly go off on a tangent (sure it wouldn't be radioanoraks if I didn't!), just to highlight my own opinion on the matter of the male dominated industry. I think it's an absolute disgrace that in the year 2001 that the vast majority of presenters on so many stations are male. I'm not referring to adverts or newsreaders (both, of course, are very important) but to presenters. Certainly 2FM and Today FM have a long way to go. BBC Radio 1 have their act together in this respect. Here in the North West, with one notable exception that I can think of, the problem is still there. I haven't included the Donegal input to Raidio na Gaeltachta in these North West stations, preferring to consider it as a national station. I would, however, congratulate Raidio na Gaeltachta in Donegal in this respect. End of tangent!

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Does anyone know when the last few days of broadcasting are?

this has to be the saddest radio news I have ever heard.

whats gonna happen the music library now?...

..also....was the price of the 252 house/studios included in the selling price( which I`d say is worth a fortune(its a BIG house)

who`s on for a trip to trim on the last nite for a final farewell?

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Ok I dont think that teamtalk should be allowed to turn 252 into a non stop sports station so if anyone out there wants to help save 252 heres the number for teamtalk call them up and let them know what you think ok the number is 01133992000 give them a piece of your mind together we can save 252

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lights out- the kinda beebop show around 1990 was "classic rock Sunday " and was on for about 5-6 hours on a Sunday afternoon with perhaps Al Dunne??

also who remembers benny brown's American top 40. It aired around the same part of the early 90s as Century Radio did it

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Sorry to hear this story. I have been listening since the test transmissions back in 1989 with announcements on-air telling residents near the transmitter to ring a local number if they were hearing it on their phones!!! Some thoughts: Ireland first got the LongWave allocation back in the 1970s, imagine if an Atlantic type station was set up way back THEN (or in the early 80s) the huge money spinner it would have been.

There are 2 major reasons outside of Atlantic's control that have lead to the drop in listenership

(1) More radio stations nowadays in the UK

(2) Most modern day recievers (with IF circuitry only allowing about 3kHz audio bandwidth etc) perform crap on LW/MW. Make a comparison with 252 from an old fashioned radio and you will know what I mean! Remember the old fashioned MW/LW pushbutton car radios - how much better Atlantic sounded on those than a lot of modern radios?? Of the 2 this is perhaps the major problem.

It is a pity that MW/LW broadcasters worldwide did not come together and co-operate on this issue and lobby manufacturers to make decent performance on these bands on modern day radios the norm rather than the exception. This very reason is blamed for the demise of music on AM in the US.

.......

turning back to 252 itself:

during its 12 years on air I believe Atlantic would have performed better coverage-wise it it had choosen a transmitter site on the Co. Meath/Co.Louth COAST. Why?? -- being right next to the sea gives a much better earth and gives stronger groundwave coverage (this is the very reason why Dublin's Sunshine on 531 got out so well with modest power - they were transmitting on MW right beside the sea) - stronger signal in its target area and better audio at night - less skywave distortion. Also they were foolish not to go on satellite also and going on a DAB multiplex in the UK should not have been ruled out.

Even if the Teamtalk takeover goes ahead is it going to be the case that the station will be all sports? or perhaps (hopefully) a mix of sport and music shows, which is afterall the type of format on Capital Gold 1548 in London.

 

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A lot of people saying 252 should go out with a bang!

How about someone shooting Edna Cauldron.

 

Pumping Tonight

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I dare you!

 

lights out

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Mark Byrne, Nails Mahoney was also on 252...

looking back....most of the jocks were Irish

who was the American female doing afternoons around '90...Mary Ellen O'Brien, perhaps?

I didn't listen as much after 97/98 though, they played lots of indie/alternative then(Smiths, Manics, Nirvana...etc) , especially on Sat. afternoon with Eddy-temple Morris, who was on MTV at the time. This was very good and different for 252.

I think Steven Cooper was there the longest(I could be wrong!!!)

 

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As far as I'm aware the longest serving member of programming staff was Al Dunne. He was there from pre launch (about June 1989) until summer 1998.

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Lights out, can't think of anyone that would have been other than Mary Ellen O'Brien. Is she still on radio?

I used to have an information sheet which you could send an S.A.E. to London to get when they first started. I think I dumped it a number of years ago. It detailed the original schedule. It also said that the first record played (At 8.00 a.m. on 1st September 1989, not on the test broadcasts) was Tears for Fears' "Sowing the Seeds of Love". The first presenter was Gary King (who went to BBC Radio 1 soon afterwards) - The first words he spoke on-air were "Mine is the first voice you will ever hear...on Atlantic 252". This was also detailed on that info sheet, but I got the exact wording today from this URL: http://tv.cream.org/argpirat.htm

There was a Scottish DJ in the original line-up called Jock or something - he was on on Saturday evenings.

They also used to have 'sung' jingles - I could never understand why they dropped these as they were very catchy. Who was the Irish voice-over man who did their voice-overs for years? I think he did voice-overs for Dublin's FM104 as well. He had a good voice for voice-overs, but I think they should have kept the musical jingles as well.

Do the DJ's still DJ standing up?

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I know all of them HAD to do their shows standing up in its heyday.

check this uk media forum out.....very long url!! , which has a lengthy discussion about 252- check out Charlie Wolfe's message posted today....good news if it can come true...

http://directory.mediauk.com/_ui/page.asp?id=-7&idFolder=0&idMenuGroup=4503&SpPage=http%3A//support.mediauk.com/menus/radio.html

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Northwest listener HI!

Yes, about 50% of all the main line up were Irish/of Irish descent from 89-98.

I am the last remaining Irish jock on Atlantic252.

The David Dunne/Eddie Temple Morris era..hmmm ??

Good and different it certainly was,yet was that what Longwave Radio Atlantic 252 was about. I understood that it was set up by RTE/RTL to be of mass pop appeal?

Maryellen has gone back to the United States many years ago.

I have a copy (posted to me from London in '89) of the Information sheet - it came also with a merchandise leaflet detailing Baseball Caps, T shirts, pens and loads more "black and sexy" gear!

The Scottish DJ's over the 12 years - there were 2:

1.Jeff Graham, he also used to present on Luxy during the weeknights and than flew over for his gig on Saturday nights.

2 "Jammin'" Matt Finlay - to see Matt in the racks room goto www.beat106.com ! - he's now Breakfast on Beat106.

The original jingles came from Thompson Creative and I have a copy of the demo, they're mixed with a station called "Atlanta's 94Q" (quite handy)

The Irish v/o was also one of the original Atlantic 252 DJ's from Sept.89 - I think a few here would know him!!! eeeeh like it is of course HENRY OWENS! - check out www.redfm.ie

About mid 1995 operations moved from the original studio of Atlantic 252 to the other "back up" or Dubbing studio as it was originally known and has remained there ever since as the Main on-air studio.

Last week for "technical reasons" we moved back into the old Longwave Studio for a few shows and of course I got to do overnights from there! - I gotta tell you it felt good.

Oh and of course it's still a standup studio - both are!

Unless u wanna be lazy and sit on a stool:-)

Why stand up do you ask?

Well as Henry said to Sarah Green in 92 on Take2 for BBC1TV

"it's more of an energy thing really"

 

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Jeff Graham was the man I was talking about!

You know the way that some people will remember some wee thing that someone has said years ago, even though most people will have forgotten? Sometimes things just stick in your head? Well, I always associate Jeff Graham (at least I knew his name started with 'J'!) with this joke that he told one evening, all those years ago - "What's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?................The answer is that you can roast beef........."

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Its hard to believe that today FM is valued at 65.5 million, and Atlantic will only be sold for 2/3 million.

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I remember Henry Owens being on on the early days. Didn't realise that was him. Did he do the FM104 voice-overs that were in use around 1994-1995?

Other songs that got massive airplay (If any dates are slightly out then please let me know!):

1989:

B52's - Love Shack

New Kids on the Block - Hangin' Tough

Around May/June 1990:

The Adventures of Stevie V - Dirty Cash

Happy Mondays - Step On

August 1992:

Snap - Rhythm is a Dancer

Jimmy Nail - Ain't no Doubt

1993:

Bitty McClean - When it's Raining it's Raining (or something like that!)

Sister Sledge - Lost in Music (Sure is Pure remix)

Freddie Mercury - Living on my Own

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I remember Henry Owens being on on the early days. Didn't realise that was him. Did he do the FM104 voice-overs that were in use around 1994-1995?

Other songs that got massive airplay (If any dates are slightly out then please let me know!):

1989:

B52's - Love Shack

New Kids on the Block - Hangin' Tough

Around May/June 1990:

The Adventures of Stevie V - Dirty Cash

Happy Mondays - Step On

August 1992:

Snap - Rhythm is a Dancer

Jimmy Nail - Ain't no Doubt

1993:

Bitty McClean - When it's Raining it's Raining (or something like that!)

Sister Sledge - Lost in Music (Sure is Pure remix)

Freddie Mercury - Living on my Own

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And do you remember them playin "Heavy D and the Boyz" , **** that tune was FAT!!!!

 

 

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I will really miss Atlantic 252. But I guess radio has to move with the Times!

And maybe TeamTalk will have a good Overnight!

12 Words in a row! Nonnnnnnn stop Talk and Chat!

 

 

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Does the UK really need another sports station? Whilst Atlantic 252 may have become sidelined, (most UK stations are now 'pop-dance' orientated), the music option is still real. What about a pure 60's based Gold service - what about Classic Rock? What about pure CHR with killer breakfast and night-time shows? What about REAL News/Talk? Let's face it - sport looks like the BORING option! And at £2 million it was a snip! Yes, we could still be pumping tonight

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Stevie,

I agree with you. Sports radio like news/talk radio is very expensive to run with rights issues for matches and reporters, researchers, presenters, producers, link ups, satellite feeds etc etc.

Classic rock is not a bad option. The audience will be older 25+ and will be used to am or LW all their life unlike 12-24 yr old who are growing up in the digital age.

The audio off a classic rock station is not as important as that of dance music is it is more guitar driven than drum beats and punchy base.

The programming costs will not be as much. Even royalty rates will be lower than chr

Other format options I have suggested here before could include jammin oldies, 80s, classic hits of 70s,80s, 90s or another option you suggested could be old gold 50s,60s,70s although the latter seems to be well catered for on many commercial AMs in the UK.

3 national sports stations might be too many?

a national station with a niche (not too narrow) could work very well

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It's hard to envisage another sports only radio station doing well considering the competition there already. There again I can't vouch for Talk sport as I have never listened to it long enough, but Radio Five tends to focus very much on football to the detriment of other sports. This new entity could possibly work if it avoids football altogether, catering for the likes of rugby league, rugby union, and athletics instead.

A further reason why it might want to re-consider any plans it may have for getting involved in football coverage is the difficulties currently being faced by its TV counterparts. Just this week ITV it announced plans to re-schedule its Premiership programme from 7pm on Saturdays to 10.30pm. This is perceived as a major blow to the network, which invested heavily in the contract previously held by the BBC.

The trouble is sports programmes, even soccer ones, don't compare favourably with the huge viewing figures for light entertainment shows such as Blind Date. This coupled with a perceived over exposure of football on TV - with the likes of satellite channels such as Sky and ITV Digital providing blanket coverage - is reason enough for TV executives, in these days of declining advertising revenues, to downsize their coverage of the sport.

Radio stations take note...

 

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ok hands up who all wants to see Atlantic 252 stay on

 

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I don't think that would have made a huge difference F3E.

If you're ever lucky enough to see the Engineering Drawings of the transmission site just outside Summerhill, you would be extremely impressed with the Ground Plane buried under the "field". It's Mind-Blowing!!

At the bottom of the mast, there are copper "rods" (for want of a better description". There is one every 5 (or 10) degrees around the mast and they stretch out as far as the land the TX is on. Every where there is a stay wire, the same applies, and where the rods from the mast, and stays cross, they are welded together.

That sounds confusing, but i hope you get the idea. The aerial drawing looks like a huge "spiders web".

I think the major downfall of Atlantic 252 was when Virgin got the 105.8 licence in London and the South-East.

I used to be a "252-aholic", and it was great when I'd be in the UK to listen, but Virgin were there biggest threat, and which would you prefer to listen to.... dodgy LW (which you lost everytime you passed under a fly-over on a motorway), or VHF, with all the glories of Stereo?

I know what I prefer!

It's sad, because 252 was what I grew up with, (I even plagued my parents to get me a radio with LW one Christmas!!!) and although I rarely listen today, I'd prefer to have the option to switch over and hear Music, than non-stop Sport!

I think BBC Radio 5 Live is a good enough sport talk station.....

Why another one?????

Lar Wright,

Energy 94 Dublin.

 

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After the best part of a decade on 106.1FM in Cork CUHFM have now moved to 107.8 FM. This is to facilitate new station RedFM which is due to start testing on a number of frequencies between 104 and 106FM shortly.

 

 

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Headlines from Yesterday's Tribune:

"radio loses Dublin Youth" about how under 25s are tuning out of radio (I assume the figures are for legal radio)

and then in the same paper:

"Phantom of the airwaves" an article on youth orientated alternative pirate station phantom fm's success

go to radiowaves.fm to read articles in full

 

To the BCI if you read this: sort out the radio industry in this country before nobody listens to radio anymore. I have said it here before and I will say it again, we will have one of the lowest listenership levels to radio in the west in a few years unless there is a drastic review of licensing, diversity, content and other restrictions. Listenership has gone from 90% to 88% to 83% in the last 10 years. The figure will most likely be less than 80% next year.

People (especially young) don't want to hear 20% news and current affairs on a MUSIC station along with 10 mins of ads and other clutter and although research has shown this the BCI still won't allow stations provide a service that people actually want and they might wonder why listeners are turning off radio!!

Finally, just out of interest, do country fm have a derogation as a special interest station? I can't work out where their 20% news and current affairs coverage is.

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yes I think country fm does have a derogation and the station sounds so fresh and uncluttered without the news restrictions.

 

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27 Posts Posted - 08/11/2001 : 08:44:40

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Panic Panic Panic :

A rest from the number one spot won't do them any harm and of course they'll be able to bounce back. Masking the 98fm formula shouldn't be too difficult.

98 were number one for almost 6 years before their decline began and it was long climb back but thanks to John Taylor and his eye for talent and his willingness to try things that don't always work the station is now number one.

FM 104 can do the same but it sounds to me like theres too much in-fighting and the rest. If they want to get back on track they should go back to doing what they do best, forget the kids go for the adult audience.

What about bringing Jason Maine onto daytime, what a wealth of experience he'd bring to the table.

How about head-hunting Debbie Allen from 98fm - the best female presenter on radio by a mile.

Isn't it time Greg was forgiven and welcomed back into the fold, he's paid the price, should he now be prevented from earning a living for the rest of his life.

Dump Adrian Kennedys show for a revamped version with less spite and more entertainment sex etc.

Time and temp jock across the afternoon into Jason's drive could be jim o neill and what about a talk/phone show between 10.00 and 2.00 in the afternoon, Ray Darcy has hardly set the world alight on Today fm

 

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That has to be one of the most well-reasoned and productive comments I have ever read on this board. And, as a former employee of said station and therefore knowing something of its inner workings, I agree one hundred percent.

Edited by - Hack on 08/11/2001 10:08:33

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I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER SEE THE DAY!

NOW THAT WE HAVE SORTED OUT OUR PASSWORD PROBLEMS, WE START SEEING INTELLIGENT AND INFORMED POSTINGS! THE WORLD IS LOOKING BRIGHTER!

FM

 

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You think THAT's well-reasoned and productive?

Putting Jason Maine on daytime radio? Maybe, as a radio enthusiast, It'd be quite the anorak's wet-dream, but my God man, are you on the wacky backy, the party powder or the trippin' tabs or what?

The boy Jase (in the place, think he's ace, and now I've got a pain in me face) just doesn't cut the mustard anymore. Repetitive, sometimes uncoordinated links, aged rhymes and extra "Smashey and Nicey" cheeeeeze is NOT the thing FM104 need to do now to try and gain an audience. Besides, Mark Byrne's a pilot now!

Debbie Allen? The best female presenter on radio by a mile? In a local industry with Joan Lea, Breffni Clack, Anne-Marie Kelly and Ruth Scott how hard can it be? (Though a number of those are better than HER!) The woman has no on-air personality, a pretty poor voice, and can rarely get her co-host (let's face it, that's what she is) timing right most mornings. I'd say FM104 ought to give Joan her own show. Some sort of slightly smutty lovesongs thing... Or even a talk show. Better yet - a love talk show! Now THAT would be interesting!

Greg? Paid the price? So, he went to prison after all then did he? Not the last I heard.

Jim O'Neill would definitely leave Today FM to go and work in FM104. And we'll all bring our radio's with us onto our yellow submarine, where we look at pictures of purple hills and listen to Jim O'Neill, standard jock, available for v/o's - presenting a talk show in the mid-mornings. Tell me - why aren't you a programmer?

 

Well reasoned? Honestly!

 

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Dr Don's comment was indeed reasoned and well thought out, however, I have to agree with Johnny C the proposals he put forward are not really a viable solution for FM104. Jason is not what the station needs during the day but if FM104 gives up it's pointless pursuit of the young audience Jason could be great on mid evening. Time and temp jocks would offer listeners no new reason to listen. What they need is a couple of genuine personality presenters, thay doesn't mean they have to be wacky or funny every time they open the mic, they just need to be real people with something to say (not one liners from a prep sheet). There are plenty of jocks out there who are well capable of doing that, two former 104 employees who come to mind are John Power (Noel Dicker) and Ciaran Phillips. They are both intelligent and not hung up on being slick (they only people who are impressed by a jock nailing a vocal are other jocks, listeners only notice when you crash). there are also plenty of Irish jocks in Britain who could be tempted to return, one such is Darragh Corcoran who's at Magic 828 in Leeds.

As for a replacement for Colm as PD, if Dermot had his eye on the ball he might have lined up John O'Hara before he decided to return to England. John has become one of the best programmers in the business (252 was a lost cause). John could have been the man to turn 104 around, but I guess we'll never know now.

P.S. JamesDeane is right, it's great to finally have an intelligent debate on the board, let's keep it up

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 09/11/2001 : 01:28:24

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Interesting thread this. It would seem that 104 are in trouble yet all that may be required is them to re-structure things a little. E.g.; Try Colm somewhere else, put Andy on breakfast and let him use his personality with a DECENT female co-host OR put Steve K there with a Zoo radio style show. Swap things around. Try different DJ's in different spots, hire new talent, fire those resting on their laurels. Get radical!

It would be unfair to comment on each DJ individually. Personally I think 80% of the jocks are good to excellent, yet one or two stick out like a sore thumb with immature delivery and shout outs to knackers that Spin won't want anyway.

On a positive note Colm is sounding well despite coming under fire a lot around here, yet I feel he would still sound much better if he surrounded himself with more people in the studio to give the show the edge and atmosphere it sometimes lacks since it changed format. The Strawberry Alarm Clock was essential listening years ago as was The Rude Awakening before it. If 104 are going for a younger audience share they need a breakfast show that goes with it. Colm CAN do it, but he needs others around him. Bring back Justin maybe? Why did he leave?? Chris Evans he aint but Colm is s_hit hot when he wants to be.

 

Ah, soooooo many thoughts on this as 104 remains my one of my favourite Irish stations, but that's all for now.

Armchair experts we may be, but something has to be done in Hume House and quickly at that. The next book will definitely cost jobs

 

Dr Don

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Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 09/11/2001 : 10:07:51

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Thanks to Johhnie for stimulating the debate with his comments, personally I'm not on the wacky backy but each to their own.

Its great to have posters like Johnny, negative and somewhat bitter I wonder is his a talent that hasn't been recognised by programme controllers around the country or maybe not recognised and rewarded properly. But enough of that style of debate, lets try and be constructive, Jason may or may not work on dayshift but with a little direction and help from an experienced PD he could be good.

Greg faced a court and received a punishment as laid down by the laws of the land and if that's not good enough for JC well maybe he should take it up with the courts, details of the judgement are available through the law library.

And his comments on Debbie Allen while valid and welcomed (as I'm sure most are ) are quite funny, if she's as poor as he says she is how did she bring the show to number one and put points on the previous jnlr or maybe that was luck ?

 

On another note will there be room for SPin and Newstalk, will salaries be poor, a news anchor in the mornings and evenings won't be cheap.

The sports element of the station should be cheap enough to put together, eg live commentary via isdn from around the city/country and informed opinion mixed with fans views could be a winner.

Regards,

 

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Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 29/10/2001 : 15:41:05

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For quite some time I have being aware that a certain Jock on Mid West Radio (my local station) has friends on the inside of this web site. So much that when a post is put up that in any way reflects badly on the station a brief conversation take place between both parties and the post is removed.

I wonder if this were the case with 104/ 98fm etc etc etc the board would be a less exciting place to be.

The post I made yesterday regarding the barring of Mid West Radio from carrying out outside broadcasts was removed. Surprise Surprise.

When all I was doing was stating fact.

I think that censorship on this board is a good thing, but when it is selective for FRIENDS I think that it has gone far ENOUGH.

 

 

Hack

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 30/10/2001 : 10:14:20

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Hmmmm... IMHO that shouldn't happen and it is bad form of the mods if they are doing that. I'm interested in that post, please email me at hack@online.ie with details. Cheers.

pullmyfinger

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 30/10/2001 : 15:24:56

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All Mods should be completely and utterly unbiased.

As much as I respect the Webmaster for giving us a platform to air our views you have to question the fact that there are Mods involved with radio stations here. Mod 2 for example.

IMHO - All Mods should be enthusiasts of radio/hardcore anoraks and should NOT have any obligations to any station

mod2

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Ireland

27 Posts Posted - 30/10/2001 : 17:06:09

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Im not getting into that debate again. We did it on the old board and we dont need to raise that issue again. As regards the post by sidsnot007, I will look into why it was taken down. Any queries regarding posts, people can mail me at mod2@mail.com

To clarify something, posts are taken down for a number of different reasons, sometimes because of their content, false statements, on going action, or else a down right lie. All mods (4 of them) have to make this decision based on information at the time or requests from people involved. To my knowledge we have never received a complaint email from 98, 104, or any DUBLIN radio station about what goes on at radio anoraks. Each person has their own views about each issue on radio anoraks, we do our best to moderate on each post. Sorry if you dont like it, but they are the rules.

c.c. Admin

Mod2

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Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 30/10/2001 : 17:19:57

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But the fact remains that you still took it down.

What I stated factual, true and correct. Perhaps a phone call to the BCI will confirm this.

Mr.xxx has being wrapped on the knuckles so hard that his finger have almost fallen off.

He has systematically abused the position that he holds in the station to further his own gain for too long. One member of the board of directors even refused to attend any meetings where he is present.

 

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 31/10/2001 : 09:57:27

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Fair enough Mod, but I have to agree with Sid of the running nose. And I have confirmed with the BCI what he told me by email. Naughty MWR!

 

 

 

Sid_Snott007

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thank you hack, i feel a little TRIUMPHANT! ! ! ! ! ! !

I wonder how often the phone has being rang in the great Bally H today.

I'm sure I'll hear on the grapevine later when I am in the same said town watching tha match later. (Damn I need a bigger telly).

ss007

 

 

Sherman die pole

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2 Posts Posted - 01/11/2001 : 18:34:18

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Sitting here working on an audio project on my PC, and I must admit I was quite annoyed to get a phone call from the engineer in Mid/North West Radio regarding this thread.

Yes I have worked for Mr.xxxx in the past and yes we have little time for each other to-day and I wish to leave my relationship with that person there. If he wishes to take it further by coercing his staff into ringing me again I will deal with these calls with the contempt they deserve.

While I enjoy reading what I have read and I support the thoughts of Sid entirely I do not nor have contributed to this thread under neither this nor any other name in the past.

In fact so incensed by the phone call that I decided to register on the site and post.

R

 

 

Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:01:27

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yo sher,

sorry to hear that. I am back in the auld sod and will call you over the weekend.

I have changed my mobile so the old number will not work.

c u then

 

Sherman die pole

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Ireland

2 Posts Posted - 09/11/2001 : 18:11:30

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okay

 

 

 

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Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 10/11/2001 : 11:23:05

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A suggestion.........

Before you post a new topic, check to see if it's already being spoken about elsewhere. We now have 3 threads running about 'FM104' and another few about '252'.

Perhaps the mods could merge the topics?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 09/11/2001 : 17:58:58

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Just after having a week in the US and I must say they can do radio!!!!!

Anyway.....

I hear that COlm Hayes has quite as PD any one got any ore info!!!!!

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 10/11/2001 : 13:04:43

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Has He QUIT or QUITE??

think , man , think?

 

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JAMESDEANE

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 07:52:42

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IM SURE YOU HAVE ALL NOTICED THE FALL-OFF IN QUALITY POSTINGS ON THIS BOARD, MODS WHY? WHAT A GOOD THINg WE ALL HAD GOING HERE BEFORE THE SITE FORMAT WAS CHANGED, I KNOW IT WILL GO BACK TO THE SAME THING, BUT NO MATTER HOW MANY INCORRECT, STUPID AND OFFENSIVE COMMENTS WERE POSTED PREVIOUS AT LEAST THERE WAS SOMETHING! IS THERE NO WAY WE CAN GET THINGS GOING AGAIN, MANY PEOPLE ARE READING AND NOT POSTING, DOES THAT NOT TELL THE MODS SOMETHING. ANYHOW IVE SAID MY BIT, AGAIN, AND I SHOUTED IT ALL!!!!Hope you heard me!

FM

 

Hack

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 10:18:48

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Well, I can't be arsed commenting most times because I can't remember my password so I have to go looking for it if I want to reply to anything. And I can't change it to something a little easier. So, lurker lurker me it is then.

JAMESDEANE

Starting Member

Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 11:12:40

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19 READS 1 COMMENT!

THANKS HACK!

FM

JAMESDEANE

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28 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 12:46:09

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ITS UNFORTUNATE THAT YOU HAVE SUCH A VIEWPOINT ON THE SITE, THE FACT REMAINS THAT YOUR UPGRADED SITE PROVIDES LITTLE INTEREST TO US. ON A POINT OF INFORMATION, I HAD TWO USERNAMES ON THE LAST SITE, COUNTRYBOY AND JAMESDEANE, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

REGARDS,

FM

Edited by - JAMESDEANE on 12/11/2001 11:42:16

 

pullmyfinger

Starting Member

Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 20:46:55

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Something needs to be done around here as, to be frank, the board has gone to complete and utter sh_ite. The way things are going I can't see it lasting the new year which is a pity, as a platform IS needed for the industry. The main gripe seems to be the new password system. It COULD be said that all we have to do is get cookied up, click the reminder box and hey presto we don't have to keep going to our mail boxes ........ opening up the mail from Admin, getting our password, copying the password and THEN pasting it into the appropriate slot on the site.

Er, right. Ask me arse.

As I said, this COULD be said. Most will laugh at such a contrived way of airing their views and go to radiowaves.fm or elsewhere.

What about the people on legal radio who need more then one ID to keep their arse covered? Our bosses don't look too fondly on us posting here, so 2 or 3 IDs could be one solution. The thing is, and it's something I know usually goes hand in hand with multiple IDs, this DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BAD THING! This doesn't necessarily mean it will lead to the scurrilous, malicious or libellous posts we've seen in the past. If things get out of hand then TAKE ON MORE MODs! Block s_hit stirrers. Ban ISP numbers. Whatever it takes

Speaking of Mods; I think that while its a bad thing that MOD2 that works for Energy 94 (NO mod should have ties with any station, legal or otherwise. None) he must be applauded for doing the bulk of the work around here. The other Mods seems to do fcuk all.

New or more Mods then please Admin.

At the end of the day a legal jock doesn't want the hassle that goes with posting on this site. A majority of the threads were discussed during coffee and lunchtime hours (10 - 2) on the old site, now there's very little input during these hours (and very little overall)

What does this tell you? To me it says that the average legal jock couldn't be arsed of going to the hassle of setting up a new email account that doesn't contain his real name on the address. Then doing all I mentioned above just so he can share his thoughts??? He's on his break, he has 15 mins at the PC, he doesn't need that crap.

Any other suggestions out there? How can Radioanoraks stop its current trend? Something better change around here soon, the site is a mere shadow of its former vibrant and informative self

Discuss

 

 

Edited by - pullmyfinger on 06/11/2001 20:49:53

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 21:00:02

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77 people have read this post.

6 have replied.

Says it all really

Admin

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23 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 01:37:39

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Hi all,

Thanks for the interest. One of the reasons we upgraded the board was to provide a better experience for all users which I think we have done quite well. The primary reason though was to get rid of multiple users posting libel which is traceable back to the owners and host company of this site!! You would be surprised how much trouble the old site used to generate. The choice was to clean up the board or shut down so I choose to give the board 1 more chance and really make a go of it. I will look into coding the change of password asap but time is very tight and as you all know this is a non-profit site. As for more mods, I requested that multiple times and got a very poor response...but I would like to thank Mod2 who has kept an eye on the board as much as he can and has been very helpful. If you are interested in being a mod email me on mods@radioanoraks.com As for IP banning!! I think I've been through that a few times before and can tell you again that it does not work effectively when users are dialling up through an ISP as the IPs are dynamically allocated.

Finally I have been disappointed with the lack of good threads lately but have been glad to see a lack of rubbish posts mentioning names and general bitching. Do note though that the board is very lightly moderated but libel is taken very seriously here and posters are responsible for what they write!!! Thanks...ADMIN

JAMESDEANE

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 07:57:26

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I AM ABOUT TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK, I CHANGED MY E-MAIL ADDRESS YESTERDAY BECASUE IRELAND.COM IS CHANGING OR WHATEVER, SO WHAT DID I RECEIVE IN MY NEW YAHOO MAILBOX THIS MORNING? YES, YOU'VE GUESSED IT, A GREAT BIG NEW PASSWORD!!!!!ADMIN, THIS IS RIDICULOUS, I HAD JUST BEGUN TO REMEMBER MY OLD ONE,IM AFRAID I MUST AGREE WITH PULLMYFINGER, THE SITE WILL BE AT MELTDOWN IN THE NEW YEAR, I CANT SEE HOW YOUR NEW SYSTEM CAN SORT OUT THE PROBLEMS EARLIER MENTIONED, THE SYSTEM CAN STILL BE FOOLED.

I'M ALMOST BALD AT THIS STAGE!!!!!

FM

 

Real Listener

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5 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 11:24:19

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It's about time pressure was put on the people who run this board, it has systematically flouted freedom of speech and by that I am not referring to scum bag and libel comments, It is interesting to note that the posting on MWR was never put back by the mods or indeed admin, Strange that comments on Radio 3 were never removed, if it is one rule for one, it must be one rule for the other, can the admin return this original comment to the board? answers please, we all know what MWR did and are glad for a certain man who has forced many techs into going 2 such lengths!

106FMFAN

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Ireland

7 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 12:01:30

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I THINK THE BORD SHOULD GET RID OF AGRESSIVE PARTICIPATERS LIKE BOB/ANONLY ME. HE (ONE PERSON) ONLY SEAMS TO FIND FAULT WITH OTHER PEOPLES COMMENTS AND DON,T MAKE ANY GOOD COMMENTS THEMSELFS.

djmac

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Radio Presenter

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Ireland

30 Posts Posted - 14/11/2001 : 23:36:33

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From ukradio.com

Scottish Radio Holdings plc ('SRH') has announced that it has reached agreement to purchase the remaining shares not already owned by the group, of Irish National Commercial Radio station - Radio Ireland Ltd (broadcasting as Today FM)

The deal which is subject to regulatory approval in the Republic is worth £36.4m constituting 76% of the shareholding of Radio Ireland Ltd.

Today FM launched in the Republic in March 1997, when SRH acquired an initial 15% shareholding. This grew to 24% of the company at a cumulative cost of £2.2m in cash. The station became profitable for the year ended February 2000 and has continued to grow in terms of audience listening, advertising revenue and operating profitability, underlining the station's potential.

The latest JNLR/MRBI audience survey results were published in August this year and revealed that Today FM now attracts 891,000 listeners each week, an increase of 7% on the same period last year.

Financially, Today FM achieved record turnover of IR£7.8m for the year to 28 February 2001, up by more than 40% on the previous financial year. For the same period operating profits were IR£1.37m and pre-tax profits were IR£1.13m. Its net liabilities at 28 February 2001 were IR£1.8m. Advertising revenues for the seven months to September 2001 are up by 9% on the corresponding revenues for the previous year, reflecting a greater degree of advertising buoyancy in Ireland. SRH expects Today FM to have achieved operating profits of approximately 20% of turnover in respect of the seven months to 30 September 2001.

The consideration of £36.4m is payable in cash unless vendors elect to receive a proportion of their consideration in new Ordinary Shares in SRH at a price of 811.5p each. A further announcement will be made to confirm the number of new Ordinary Shares, if any, to be issued in this respect. The cash consideration will be met from existing SRH cash balances and an anticipated bank facility. As at 30 September 2001 SRH had no bank borrowings.

The transaction is subject to regulatory approval by the Broadcasting Commission for Ireland ('BCI') and by the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment. On 18 October the BCI published its revised Ownership & Control Policy Statement which states that the Commission will consider allowing 100% ownership of a radio station where all the other criteria set out in its policy are met. SRH intends to submit an appropriate application to the BCI and at the same time SRH will notify the Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment in order to seek clearance under the Mergers Act.

Commenting on the proposed acquisition, SRH Chief Executive Richard Findlay, said:

'I am delighted that we have reached agreement with our fellow shareholders in Today FM. The prospects of Today FM are good and the acquisition provides scope to enhance the SRH group's earnings per share. The station has become an important part of the broadcasting landscape in Ireland and is a strong success story. I am grateful in particular to John McColgan, who has been the Chairman of the Company since its inception, and who has accepted our invitation to stay on as Chairman of the Board. Despite being only four years old, Today FM will become the second largest radio station within the SRH group by reference to turnover.'

 

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breeze

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Ireland

5 Posts Posted - 06/11/2001 : 21:42:02

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just wondering what the class have to say on the new style 104, i.e. strawberry and The Jam??? in my opinion andy preston is holding the station together

its gettin breezy...

Theinsider

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Ireland

6 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 09:20:16

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I heard 104 in a shop one day and i thought i was listening to a pirate (a bad one at that). 104 have gone to the dogs, no amount of fancy new jingles will hide the fact that they need a serious change of programming, other wise they will find themselves serving a listenership of 13 yr olds, who don't really have the buying power that advertisers want.

 

Theinsider

Real Listener

Starting Member

5 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 11:18:32

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Armchair experts again, You go and run the station!

Johnny C

Starting Member

23 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 12:52:48

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Steady on there big fella!

This, as so many people have argued before, is a site about RADIO. Where people give their opinions about RADIO. What do you expect, when you come to a board called radioanoraks, you'll find someone giving their opinion on the format of a really big city station. It's not like the programmers really listen to what the anoraks say anyway, it's just opinion.

Muppet!

 

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 12:58:57

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As for my opinion, 104 have gone to the dogs. The "Jam" is dreadful, and the Alarm clock is piss poor.

As for Andy Preston holding the station together... sorry, what?

They should never have changed the SAC, regardless of whatever personal crap is going on. It was a winning formula - but that was when Justin was on it. They should've paid him to stay.

I'm still expecting the Cooperman to say "Send in your text messages now. This wun's 4 macker in ballyer!"

All over Dublin now? Shouldn't that read all over the place?

Let's hear you then...

JC

 

Mister807

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Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 13:46:13

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Isn't it amazing how the big big change at FM104 has not even been speculated upon on this board. Everyone in the business knows that FM104 will be minus a member of their "management" team from this weekend. Will 104 bring in an outsider as a replacement (which I think they will) or will they promote from inside. I think that 104s shareholders will be anxious, and willing to pay, for someone who can arrest the dip in the stations ratings and given the tough climate in terms of advertising etc at the moment, there will be no room for mistakes. You can guess the person who's going of course. If not, just read the post again!

 

Mister807

Real Listener

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5 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 13:55:51

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Johnny, I agree with the comment you made about The Dogs! It is all about the way its worded, you sound like you know what your talking about, as for the Breeze, When is that old wind going to blow up? We are hearing alot about it, but there appears to be little action!

Remember If your gonna keep it, Keep it country!!!

Radio Presenter

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Ireland

30 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 20:56:47

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Isnt it amazing how the big big change at FM104 has not even been speculated upon on this board. Everyone in the business knows that FM104 will be minus a member of their "management" team from this weekend. Will 104 bring in an outsider as a replacement (which I think they will) or will they promote from inside. I think that 104s shareholders will be anxious, and willing to pay, for someone who can arrest the dip in the stations ratings and given the tough climate in terms of advertising etc at the moment, there will be no room for mistakes. You can guess the person who's going of course. If not, just read the post again!

Mister807

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Just re-re-re read your post and STILL can't work out who it is!

So who is it and where are they going?

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 07/11/2001 : 23:31:14

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I find it somewhat saddening to see FM104 in the state it's in at the moment but, unfortunately, senior management have only themselves to blame. As soon as they edged ahead of 98 in JNLR they sat back and rested on their laurels. Even if you ignore the pirates Dublin is a fiercely competitive market and no station can afford to relax, particularly when they're at number 1. As everyone will tell you "when you're at the top there's only one way to go". In recent months 104 seems to be determined to head off the challenge of Spin FM by focusing on the younger audience, or at least trying to. The fact is FM104 was never cool! That doesn't mean there was ever anything wrong with, it simply never had a young image, they should concentrate on what they do best; adult pop, there's nothing wrong with an adult pop format, it's potentially a lucrative market.

Andy Preston is a competent presenter but I'm afraid I have to agree with the comments about him not being quite the "saviour" of 104. I don't know him well but I suspect his personality is a little stronger than it comes across on air. However that's not entirely his fault, a good programme director would encourage and guide him, sadly, in recent times the PD at 104 has obviously been more concerned with his own show.

On the matter of promoting from within, who do you suggest? there is precious little talent at Hume House (management wise). If they are to turn things around they need to bring in an experienced radio manager (they may have to look abroad). Unless FM104 get their act together soon they could quickly find themselves 4th or 5th in the JNLR and if that happens they will find near impossible to get back to a point where they're challenging for number 1 music station in the capital.

squod

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6 Posts Posted - 08/11/2001 : 00:26:21

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Quite right , there has been some changes .The station still refuses to innovate and this is what you need to do to survive . Use fresh talent . It is a real shame to see such a resource go to waste .

Who can provide direction ? Any volunteers ?

SQUÖD

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 08/11/2001 : 20:40:51

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Is Henry Owens officially on the FM104 payroll with RedHotFM? If so, isn't it possible then, that he'll come to the big smoke once Colm leaves (there, I said it - Colm's leaving!), and make the big boys, well, big?

It might be an idea. Y'see, the thing a radio station needs most is listeners for ALL of it's shows. Not just the breakfast show.

DJ Sweetie

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5 Posts Posted - 08/11/2001 : 21:35:05

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ah dear

sad state indeed, and what a shame. At one stage, 104 were real leaders and a pleasure to listen to. Now I find myself reaching for the dial should I mistakenly tune in. And as for TSAC ? Well once I found myself falling asleep to the mutterings of the only remaining member I decided to invest in a real alarm clock!

Wide awake and weird? maybe before but they're loosing it fast ...

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 10/11/2001 : 13:06:46

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ahhhhhhhhh , you know what they say , every dog has his day?

Pilots Pal

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5 Posts Posted - 12/11/2001 : 17:36:05

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So has Hayes finally stepped down? What will this do for the radio station. In my opinion not much. Everyone seems to think that Henry Owens will be the new PD. But Henry is part of the Q102 old boys club, so himself and Dave Kelly go way back. If they had any sense they would have got rid of Hayes from programming and Kelly from music selection. But that's nor gonna happen, apart from Dave and Dermot being great mates, Dave and Henry are also shareholders in Red Hot in Cork.

So where does these changes leave us?? No where, same crap, different day! Lets get down to basics. If 104 are to bounce back, they need to trim a lot of fat. How can a radio station play Horslips - Dearg Doom (yeh I know!!)in the middle of the day and then play hard house at night, it just don't work!! You need new management in there and fire the likes of, Colm, Joan, Steve Cooper, Jeremy Dixon, Al Gibbs, Jenny Greene, Dave Redmond etc.

104 would work, with Andy P on brekkie, Liam Quigly mid morns, fcuked for afternoons, Steve k back to evenings, Adrian doing some decent talk radio!! Jase overnights and finally doing something with early brekkie, let the man stretch himself a little. Now your welcome to shoot these comments to pieces but gotta get my 2 cents in. Get rid of the FAT, (thats Dave)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 12/11/2001 : 20:18:46

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My jaysus! Horslips on the radio. Thats a pleasant change. Good to see I finally made it to FM104!

All I'll say is that despite some recent setbacks, you can hardly just dismiss 104. ALL the existing stations will see reach and (especially share) eroded over the next few years.

FM104 are still pulling in 24% of Dublin on a daily basis. They're not pulling down the shutters any time soon!

 

Irelands PD

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Irish Mike, Dearg- good points. I'm all for everyone having their own opinion BUT facts can come in sometimes too. FM104 in the last inside book (within the last month or so)are +1% to 24% in listened yesterday figures. I don't want to get into the whole 98/104 thing though so just bear the above in mind. You could probably compare the whole SCA fiasco to Pat Kenny taking over the Late Late from Uncle Gaybo. People say it should've been scrapped, some don't- same could be said for Strawberry. What Greg did was unforgivable but I think they are feeling the effects of his dismissal now. Joan seems to be forgetting that the Jam ain't the SCA and should shut up every once in a while to let Steve get a word in!! What is the story with her and reading the traffic by the way?? Has she got it right once?! I presume Hayes will stay on just presenting the SCA? Why haven't they replaced Joan on it yet anyway? Henry would be perfect for the job. Pilots Pal, no matter how matey he is with Dave Kelly, I'm sure he'd have his own opinion on how to run the ship. Personally, I think PDs should NEVER be on air. They start to influence the station too much. Just look at how many SCA promos one hears on 104 on a daily basis! The station revolves around it. Rob G has to plug the SCA on the Eyeopener rather than do his own thing. We'll very quickly see these kind of things changing in there when Hayes no longer has the last say. The new PD will not have a bias way of formatting the station. The SAC will be seen as just one of the shows and it's about time too. Are they trying to sound like a pirate from 7-10pm during the week? Nuff said on that count. They made such a stupid, idiotic, careless, ignorant, blame-someone-else mistake when they let Rick WALK on them- not the other way around! Whatever people in here may say about him, he's the closest thing 104 ever had and will ever have to a Dusty Rhodes type jock. Steve K, very slick, nice voice- needs room and a bit of slack to shine, great on Funnyfarm- Hayes is formatting him too much now though. Weekend afternoons sound too old. They rushed on finding someone for that gig I'd assume. Dave Redmond- good jock, suits different time- possibly 98FM if I was asked where he really should be. They're the main probs at the moment, the others are more minor and subtle changes would suffice and hopefully will take place when Hayes' successor lands in Ballsbridge...

 

FM104 New Topic Reply to Topic

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6 Posts Posted - 13/11/2001 : 00:32:58

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Gotta agree w/the last post. Glad Hayes is going ,

Will a talent people can relate to appear or will some mollop

get a break filling airtime with a multi-million pound station ?

Again.

 

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Interesting thread this. It would seem that 104 are in trouble yet all that may be required is them to re-structure things a little. E.g.; Try Colm somewhere else, put Andy on breakfast and let him use his personality with a DECENT female co-host OR put Steve K there with a Zoo radio style show. Swap things around. Try different DJ's in different spots, hire new talent, fire those resting on their laurels. Get radical!

It would be unfair to comment on each DJ individually. Personally I think 80% of the jocks are good to excellent, yet one or two stick out like a sore thumb with immature delivery and shout outs to knackers that Spin won't want anyway.

On a positive note Colm is sounding well despite coming under fire a lot around here, yet I feel he would still sound much better if he surrounded himself with more people in the studio to give the show the edge and atmosphere it sometimes lacks since it changed format. The Strawberry Alarm Clock was essential listening years ago as was The Rude Awakening before it. If 104 are going for a younger audience share they need a breakfast show that goes with it. Colm CAN do it, but he needs others around him. Bring back Justin maybe? Why did he leave?? Chris Evans he ain't but Colm is s_hit hot when he wants to be. Maybe the time has come for some fresh management but Hayes should remain on air.

Armchair experts we may be, but something has to be done in Hume House and quickly at that. The next book will definitely cost jobs

 

pullmyfinger

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Over 500 people have read this thread yet only 17 have replied. That's gotta say something to the webmaster.

Drop the password mechanic of the site! Or, at least, let members create their own passwords.

Staying on topic, is Colm definitely going?

 

Community Radio New Topic Reply to Topic

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6 Posts Posted - 15/11/2001 : 15:27:28

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a thorny subject for some, but nonetheless, there are more and more stations being licensed country wide alongside local commercial, college/hospital. I'd be interested in hearing opinions on your local community station. Is it different ? What's different about it ? Do you listen ? Did you ever try to become involved and try to change what you didn't like ? I can generally pick up Near Fm 101.6, in Dublin, which despite it's shortcomings, appears to be one of the more progressive stations.

Any thoughts ?

Theinsider

past/present atlantic 252 Irish Jocks New Topic Reply to Topic

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 13/11/2001 : 17:09:48

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How many can you name....????.

Al Dunne

Dusty Rhodes

Enda Caldwell

Mark Byrne

Rick O'Shea

Robin Banks

anymore...????

 

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 13/11/2001 : 22:51:07

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Henry Owens

Nails Mahony (Now Brian McColl)

Stephen Cooper

Enda Caldwell

And Sean Ashmore did some shows there a few years ago but I can't remember what name he used.

I'm sure there were more.

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 14/11/2001 : 21:13:00

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was sean ashmore's name Mark something?

did we not have a full 3 pages on this subject already last month?

Charlie and Andrew were defo the best early 90s.

 

Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 14/11/2001 : 23:12:57

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Can't believe Kavo hasn't been mentioned yet!

So............

Paul Kavanagh

He was the first 'unofficial' voice on and used to do a classic rock show on Sundays in addition to his fulltime job of PD.

lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 15/11/2001 : 13:39:24

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cant believe I left out Owens, Nails and Kav.

remember that rock show- played lots of 50s/60s - like Be-Bop gold on Sunshine, a great show.

 

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 15/11/2001 : 22:24:58

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Mark Whelan , Mark Collins and Greg Park , and Sean Ashmore used Mark Little as his handle on 252!

 

 

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27 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 08:28:21

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Any word yet on how Dublin Country is doing ? I have to say I'm not very impressed by their talent line-up. Some of the jocks are like bad pirate djs and I'm amazed they're not being directed by management.

Would they not have been better calling it something else, while there is a big country fan base out there a lot of the trendys prefer to call it easy listening rather than country. In Ireland when we think country we think Big Tom and that lot rather than some of the tunes 106 are playing.

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 00:15:00

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I have to agree on the name issue. I would have thought that calling it "Star 106.8" might have afforded them the opportunity to attract people who may like a lot of the music but are turned off by the term "Country".

I'm inclined to agree somewhat on the on air team observation too. The fact that their licence is "special interest" does not mean that Dubliners will excuse them for not have a team as strong as the other stations. Their main competition is Lite FM and, without meaning to be disrespectful of anyone on 106.8, there is no one on the line up who, in my opinion, equals the talent/personality of Liam Quigley, Scott Williams and Mike Maloney.

They seem very vague about who's in charge of programming. Hugh Browne, as general manager is, to my mind, very much an old school pirate "head" who hasn't changed with the times. Certainly his tenure at CKR is nothing to be proud of. It looks like there are two stations in Dublin in need of a PD!!

 

Radio Awards New Topic Reply to Topic

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Marky

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1 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 17:36:50

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Well done to Today FM - top dogs at the PPI Awards.

Bit strange to see how RTE Radio 1 claimed overall station of the year when TODAY FM picked up five key awards. (Dempsey, Gift Grub, Dunne, News and Sports)

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 10:02:58

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Not in favour of RTE being allowed enter... they can throw thousands of pounds at a programme, how many independants can do that?

Colm Hayes New Topic Reply to Topic

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Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 15/11/2001 : 11:03:26

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Where is all this specualtion about Colm Hayes leaving FM104 or being fired as PD. FM104 have issued no statement, Colm is still on air and working away as normal, and quite funny I might add.

Can we once and for all end or confirm this "speculation"

Also does anyone know if Greg Gaughren is going to Red in Cork.

Mister807

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9 Posts Posted - 15/11/2001 : 21:49:05

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Yes, Colm Hayes is leaving his post as PD as soon as his replacement has been appointed. 104 are looking internally and externally for his replacement.

Yes, he is staying on at 104 both as presenter of the Strawberry Alarm Clock (well, at least until the new PD arrives), and as a "creative consultant" to the station.

No, Greg isn't going to Red FM in Cork.

Mister 807

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 01:18:54

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Why should Colm be used as the scapegoat in all this mess? There are other people who could have the finger pointed at them too!

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 04:21:49

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Who says he's a scapegoat? Perhaps Colm has decided to step down as P.D. It's obvious that FM104 needs to focus more on it's position in the market and sucha job needs singularity of focus (I've never agreed with the PD being on air anyway). Faced with the choice of giving up his management role or his on air post, Colm may simply have decided that his is primarily a jock.

as for his replacement, I can't see the new PD being an internal appointment. From my experience Dave has never been viewed as leadership material. The big question then is where will the new leader come from?

Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 08:23:59

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98fm always looked to Australia and New Zealand for their Programmers and it hasn't done them any harm so far, the problem with 98 is that management there never really bothered training someone up from this country.

There was one trainee in Liam Thompson but he was never allowed to take the reins on his own which was a huge pity. Liam moved to 2fm where he is Jon Clarke's number two.

Irish Pds in or around Dublin are Paul Kavanagh (newstalk,) Joe Harrington (East Coast), Hugh Browne ( Dublin Country) and Scott Williams ( Lite)

Any improvement on that list would be welcomed !!!

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 10:04:42

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Was told at the awards Friday that Dave Kelly is the new PD, any confirmation?

 

TALK RADIO New Topic Reply to Topic

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Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 08:44:48

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Isn't it about time that 98fm and 104 freshened up their night time talk shows, the quality on offer is appalling and way past its sell by date.

Chris Barry attempted to lighten the content of his show and sadly it didn't work, the guy just isn't funny and his meanderings in studio alongside his sidekick Niall Power are often painful.

Adrian Kennedy still believes that he who shouts loudest wins the argument and if someone sponsored the word (sic) EM, Adrian would be a very wealthy man.

Please Please guys change this tired and outdated type of show. Research has shown that both these shows have been losing listeners in droves. Now is the time to change, anyone out there got any ideas ??

 

Mike

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16 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 20:07:41

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Ive got an idea

Why not just play music instead

just a thought

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 20:35:19

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The talk shows are there to fulfil the stations 20% news and current affairs quota.

 

breeze

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5 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 00:32:48

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put the 2 of them on at 5am and the pair of them can shout at each other and no-one will listen or give a sh*** about their mindless famblings about crap. put on a slower pace of music at night. just an idea!!

its gettin breezy...

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 00:45:25

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I'm guessing Breeze, that you don't like the talk shows! The fact remains that as much as those of us in the industry (actives as Bill Cunningham used to call us) dislike the phone-in format, JNLR figures suggest that the majority of people in Dublin who listen to the radio at night listen to either Adrian Kennedy or Chris Barry so they must be doing something right. As far as the listeners are concerned it aint broke, so why fix it?

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 03:20:10

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IMHO Nial Boylan's Sunday night show is the way this format should be approached. He deserves more then a token one show a week.

 

Mike

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16 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 11:15:52

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The majority of people in Dublin who listen to the radio at night don't have much other alternative do they ?

 

Radiofriend

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7 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 20:22:04

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There is only one Talk Radio ......This is the Type of Station that we all deserve over here.........Gerry Ryan would learn a lot from theses guys...........Listen to www.modjoradio.com Canada "Radio for Guys"...The breakfast Show is the best Ive heard anywhere ..The Humble and Fred Show...Check it out.....This is wall to wall entertainment..

Regards

RF

Radiofriend

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7 Posts Posted - 17/11/2001 : 20:23:52

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Sorry i got the link wrong.................http://www.mojoradio.com

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 18/11/2001 : 22:54:34

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The majority of people in Dublin who listen to the radio at night dont have much other alternative do they ?

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Why, are they prohibited from listening to Lite FM, Dublin's Country, Today FM, 2FM or any of the numerous pirates which, according to what people tell us on here, are much better than the legal stations anyway?

I haven't done a bandscan for a while but last time I checked I could receive 32 stations on FM in my house on the Northside of the city.

How much Choice do you want????

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 10:09:27

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Went through the band when in Duberlin Friday and Saturday, it's all gone very quiet. Only pirate I could pick up was Hot.

 

JAMESDEANE

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28 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 13:49:19

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SO DID U ENJOY THE GRUB IN JURYS HACK?

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7 Posts Posted - 16/11/2001 : 02:08:12

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Is there are Radio people in this country with their own Personal Web Pages?........Anywhere that has some info on Irish Stations ,Prep,News,..........?????????...Is Radiowaves the only one?

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 15:53:32

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Loads of links here.... http://www.craigavon-av.co.uk/links.htm

 

Kiss 103FM re-union New Topic Topic Locked

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2 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 00:39:42

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The Kiss Fm reunion takes place tonight - Monday 19th - at the Pines pub Terenure. All are welcome for a night of drinking and reminiscing..(and maybe the odd bit of bitching!)

See you there,

Kevin.

 

 

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 19/11/2001 : 19:40:25

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c u there rubberneck!!! is bungle coming ??

tom dunne - today fm New Topic Reply to Topic

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 11:14:24

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pet sounds on today fm - could this be the graeatest show on Irish radio around?

he plays what he wants and has so much variety and has a great personality for this type of show.

Very reminiscent of the night train with Mark Cagney on Radio 2 in the 80s, except the night train was album/MOR at times.

any thoughts/comments??

Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 11:24:29

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Tom Dunnes show is definitely one of the best around, its great to hear something really heavy followed by say the beachboys.

Tom did drive for a few weeks on 98fm but they didn't like his style, still their loss was today's gain.

lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 14:37:23

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He started on 98FM doing Totally Irish in the same slot as Pet Sounds, but wanted to play more stuff, apart from the Irish stuff.

He then replaced John Kelly who did The eclectic ballroom, he went, as you know to Radio 1's The Mystery Train(which is not near as commercial as Tom).

He has settled into radio very quickly, in the space of only 4 years.

Fair play to him.

He still gigs with Something Happens, who were/are a great band.

 

Gerry Ryan Rumours?? New Topic Reply to Topic

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 14:43:19

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Reading in Hot Press - Any truth in the Rumours that Gerry Ryan will be joining his old 2FM mates, Willie O'Reilly and Iano on Today FM.

If its true, he would in all fairness be a huge loss to 2FM, he has been there since the start along with Gogan and Fanning.

Would they move D`Arcy to another slot?

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 15:07:35

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What exactly doe the Hot Press report say, please, and where is it in the mag? It'd be a very interesting development, but Today FM would want to have a good whack of money to throw at him. Furthermore, Ryan's gagging for a TV gig. A move to Today FM would rule him out of one (unless he wants TV3!).

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 01:53:18

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I have the latest HP (the Kylie edition) and I see nothing in there about Ryan. I'll have another look.

RTE cannot afford to lose Gerry! He's constantly in the national radio Top 5 listeners wise. There's no way Today can match his Mont**** money and, besides, isn't he tied to a 3 year contract?

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 23:42:36

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interesting news if it's true , he is certainly big buddies with the todayfm chief exec. , his old producer willie O' reilly and recently his best man at willies wedding!

yeah , what would they do with D'arcy?

Today Fm would have or soon will have more money at its disposal with SRH buying it out....hopefully!

As for Ryan gagging for a Tv gig , shure he's been tried several times on the TV , remember Ryan tonight , god that was awful! and they're is always TV3?

but it would be interesting , wouldn't it?

Beyer goes black New Topic Reply to Topic

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46 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 01:48:53

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Have read in a trade mag that the famous Beyer DT 100's are now available in fashionable black to compliment the regular grey. Does anyone know how these "cans" became the industry standard and how long they ARE the industry standard? I've seen pics of Sony headphones on early Radio 1 UK jocks ....... pre Beyer. I think the flat uncoloured (no added bass or treble) sound is what gives Beyer the edge in most broadcasting sectors.

Theinsider

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6 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 13:43:08

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I'm probably the only one, but I've never liked beyer, and cant use them, I find them extremely uncomfortable. I have always used Sennheiser, and am most upset as my trusty HD414 cans, which I have had for 12 years, have given up. The main problem is the ear pads have worn away, and I can't get replacements. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on some ?? They are just the business. I know I know, but beyer are the industry standard you're saying, I still don't like them though. I think you hear a much clearer sound from Sennheiser, and they are fairly lightweight.

Theinsider

 

woosh27

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1 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 15:59:27

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Seinheisers are best, and don't make you look like a tool with them on

Radiofriend

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7 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 20:45:29

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I can't see how the Black DT 100s are being seen as new as I have mine over 2 years...And I agree that they do look better then the Stanard Grey..But im a Dj not "Tommy Hilfiger" so i dont really care how they look.Ive tried them all and I agree that the Sennheisers are nice Cans ..in fact thats what I use in Clubs,but I find that they feed back On Air(of course thats if you like your Cans as high as mine).The one funny thing I find about the DT 100s is that when they get shabby they sound great,once there is new pads put on them they go very dull............ "Is that just me Andy or the Leftorium"

DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 20:50:25

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Didn't Beyer have a model like the DT100s except called the DT120's? And they were black, but basically the same set of cans?

I like the DT100's, but I'll disagree with radiofriend...they can sound really gammy once all the padding etc falls off them. The stereo can sound odd on them at times too (that's the technical term!).

I've also found that some mixing desks don't seem to power the DT100's very well...and its not me, 'cos I don't like loud headphones.

 

 

Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 22:39:42

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I think one of the main reasons the DT100 became the industry "standard" is because they are so modular. Unlike most other makes, if something breaks it can be easily replaced. I've had mine since 1985, there's actually little left of the originals now but they're still going strong.

On the matter of some desks not handling them well, it's probably down to the Dt100's impedance, although 8 ohms is generally the standard, Beyer make them in everything from 4 ohms up to 800 ohms (possibly another reason for their industry popularity, I can't think of any other brand that offers such choice).

fmfreddie

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Yeah , the new black ones are quite sexy at a glance and are a change I guess , a break from the norm. But as mentioned , they are knocking around a bit now?

As for me , I love em throbing when I'm on air !

Is this a bad time? New Topic Reply to Topic

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20 Posts Posted - 23/11/2001 : 16:36:26

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I remember around the time of the National Day of Mourning that a lot of people on these boards were letting off a lot of steam about advertising on that day. While I was listening to A Tribute To Uaneen, I noticed that 2FM played their ad's as normal. Personally it didn't bother me, I realise that the station has to make money, but I also know that my outlook on death is very different to other peoples'. Did / Does this bother other people and why?

Cheers,

Scott B

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Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 09:10:40

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We've all from time to time played that fabulous game called If I were a programme director and normally people are quick to come forward to post their schedules and reasons why on this site.

For a change though lets be different why not name the worst schedule you can come up with.

Eg :

Breakfast : Dave Kelly, Declan King and Anne Harrington

10.00-1pm : Enda Murphy

1.00-4.00 : Ray Darcy

4.00-7.00 : Robert Walshe

7.00-10pm : Steve K

10pm.2am : Bob McKenzie

Overnight : Stereo Steve

Any comments ?? Any Improvements ? Anyone care ??

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 12:16:18

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Disagree with you on Steve K there Don. He was excellent on the Funny Farm. Also; Kieran Murray was actually ok on 104 when he was on overnights, he doesn't deserve to be there either.

I'm beginning to think that Dr Don is really yet another alias for a certain overly opinionated DJ. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

 

Sid_Snott007

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12 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 18:26:23

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For the worst schedule you do not have to pluck it out of thin air, it is not fiction, but FACT.

When west of the Shannon tune into 961fm and you will hear Mid West Radio which for people like me in my late 20s has nothing to offer. So as far as I am concerned it has to be the WORST on the air.

Looking forward to the day when new operators here in Mayo get a chance to shine on the air, I hear that our neighbour Shannonside are knocking on the door....hmmmmm interesting times ahead....

 

 

DEBBIE ALLEN New Topic Reply to Topic

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Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 29/11/2001 : 08:48:58

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There is a strong body of opinion that suggests F104 are interested in head-hunting Debbie Allen after attempts to woo Jim Mccabe away from Broadcast House fell by the wayside (he wasn't interested)

What's interesting about this latest news is the amount of salary the Hume house people are said to be offering. ( Apparently theres a huge warchest of cash available to fund new signings to bolster the stations weakest links.

Johnny C

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I'd check your sources again there Doctor.

If FM104 were going to sign someone, it surely wouldn't be Debbie on her own, and if they had a "warchest" available to them wouldn't they go for a stronger jock like Nails Mahoney?

And a very wise man once told me that everyone in this business is for sale - I'm sure if FM104 made Jim an offer he couldn't refuse he'd snap it up. I'd imagine what actually happened was that FM104 were unable to compete with Jim's 98FM contract, it's not that he wouldn't be interested.

Money makes the world spin, after all.

 

 

 

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 29/11/2001 : 09:57:33

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And where's Broadcast House?

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 29/11/2001 : 10:14:58

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Here, apparently, although they don't call it that... http://www.98fm.ie/info/about.asp

Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 29/11/2001 : 10:17:03

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They're not recruiting her on her own, she'll be part of new look breakfast show, and you're wrong about JUm, the money on offer was huge but he felt his prospects at 98fm were much better

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Hmmm.

I don't know Jim personally, but I'd still say anyone's for sale. But I'd imagine 98FM would be ****ting themselves at the prospect of losing him, just as the brekkie's picking up again. So if he was made any huge offer, my bet is they'd pay him more than enough to stay. Money talks, not jocks.

Don, you seem to know more than you're saying, yet you feel free to tell us that Debbie is going to FM104. Why not give us further, more interesting details. I wouldn't imagine her being FM104 material at all, but then, I would have said Rick O'Shea was. But you appear to have the inside track, so please, spill.

As for: http://www.98fm.ie/info/about.asp - I know 98FM is based in the Malt House. The Malt House. As it says on that page. Not Broadcast House. And Hack - are you IN the Malt House?

...

Johnny C: "And where's Broadcast House?"

Hack: "Here, apparently, although they don't call it that..."

Hmmm.

 

 

 

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 29/11/2001 : 11:39:28

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Nah, nowhere near, when I worked in Brown Envelope FM they were in Upper Mount Street, never been in the Melt House.

 

squod

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6 Posts Posted - 30/11/2001 : 01:00:42

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debbie who?

stop posting stuff about these people , you'll just encourage them.

SQUÖD

 

Greg Gaughran- some anorak gold! New Topic Reply to Topic

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Irelands PD

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11 Posts Posted - 05/12/2001 : 02:40:55

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http://www.naffcaff.co.uk/nova.rm

Have a listen to this piece of audio...really sad to think we won't hear this guy on Irish radio again...

News on Expression of Interests New Topic Reply to Topic

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Has anyone got any news on the recently expression of interests, called by the BCI. I checked their website, and there was nout there (surprise, surprise)

I saw that SBP article posted on radiowaves regarding 98 and 104 expressing an interest in increasing their franchise areas to include towns like Drogheda, Navan, Celbridge and Bray, and East Coast Radio expressing an interest in including Dun-Laoghaire-Rathdown County into their franchise area.

But has anyone got any other news? Did you put in an expression?

Cheers

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46 Posts Posted - 06/12/2001 : 14:23:06

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Who are your favourite UK radio DJs ever and why? Top 5's or 10's please!

1) Chris Evans - When he was at his creative zenith he was untouchable. My number one choice.

2) Steve Penk - The new leader of the pack. BBC bound next year I'd say

3) Charlie Wolf - Someone PLEASE bring this guy back to pop radio

4) Steve Wright - Ripped off Stern and in turn was mimicked by GO'C. Excellent radio at the time on 1, a tamer version of him can now be found on Radio 2

5) Chris Moyles - Love him. Hate him. You always stay listening to him

6) Kenny Everet - Broke ALL the rules. P*ssed of the powers that be and gave us creative and funny radio. A legend.

7) Nicky Holloway - Back in his old radio 1 days

8) Nick Abbot - Virgin Radio's other jewel. A presenter with intelligence and huge potential to go to national.

9) John Peel - has a wonderful laidback style. Am I right in thinking he's the only one left from the Radio 1 old guard?

10) Chris Tarrent - Would be higher in the chart if I could get to hear him more. The DJ's DJ.

11) Sara Cox - Very exciting youth radio indeed, but another love or hate presenter

And 4 whose style or music I don't necessarily like but deserve honourable mentions for sheer professionalism

12) Simon Bates

13) Terry Wogan

14) The Kid Jenson

15) Mark Goodier

Finally 5 who are far too cheesy for my ears

1) Tony Blackburn!

2) Pat Sharp

3) Alan Freeman

4) David Hamilton

5) Gary Davies

 

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2 Posts Posted - 08/12/2001 : 16:22:29

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what do you think of it at the moment?

IanVD

paul_long

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6 Posts Posted - 08/12/2001 : 23:26:54

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Its the pits especially all the pirate stations .

I think the raids damaged the pirates a lot.

most of the big pirates remain but a few of the small ones

have completely disappeared..

Question will spin fm ever launch how many months is it now!

I like dance music and the legal stations just dont cater for

my needs and pirate operators play too many gig ad's its a joke

how long theses ad's go on for it just makes me turn off.

Could they not do theses ten min ad's in 1 min very easy they

just talk outer garbage for 9 tenths of the ad time. All this

has me doing is retuning every 10 sec's its very annoying especially

on the big dance pirates eg. energy hot.

Paul Long

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fmfreddie

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It's now December 2nd , only a few weeks of the year left. A year that saw some new stations taking to the air like Country etc?

 

What stations will get on air for 2002 , Spin ? will it ever?

Newstalk? Again, will it get on?

The regionals , who will get the licences?

The locals , who will loose their licences?

What Jocks will wind up where?

Any other ideas?

 

106 listener

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MY PREDICTIONS IS THAT THE NORTHWEST'S 106FM WILL BE BACK. BIGGER & BETTER. WATCH OUT Q!

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27 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 08:49:40

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The message subject says it all, but still begs the question why ??

Look at the number of times it has turned a blind eye to blatant breachs of its own rules.

For instance this is the time of year that radio stations around the country will break the advertising per hour rule as they attempt to pack in as much advertising as possible. Apart from the odd facile warning no action is taken.

Today fm will be sold at a huge profit and good luck to the directors who initially took a huge gamble on what could have been a white elephant but their original submission bears no resemblance to their current output. Again no action taken.

Isn't it about time the airwaves were declared open to all, let the market decide who can survive and who can't. Once a station can pay its taxes and other statutory bills it should be allowed to stay on.

Lite fm is now moving more and more away from its original music promise with Born to Run and other rock numbers appearing more and more on their playlist and what action can we expect from the BCI, again nothing.

So the big question is why do we need such a body its just a drain on resources and a place to reward old politicos.

pullmyfinger

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Didn't agree with a lot of your Worst Schedule post Don but you have raised some excellent and valid points there. De-regulation in radio is long, long overdue.

 

Johnny C

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23 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 13:34:13

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*Yawn*

Heard it all before. Let's bitch some more.

thepresident

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9 Posts Posted - 06/12/2001 : 14:44:05

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The airwaves should be thrown open to all, This would force those stations currently operating to provide a Quality service

instead of concentrating soley on profit.. Only the Strong survive, there are lots of people with a genuine interest in providing a genuine service and due to current favouritism and discriminatory awarding of francises to (in many cases) corrupt organisations who attempt to intimidate any who come in their way, are disallowed. The time has come for the various Authorities to look a little closer at the people that are being favoured with the right to broadcast instead of turning a blind eye to their pasts.. Trust me, this is currently a pursuit where honesty and good character have no place.

 

 

 

The Real Stuttering John

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ADMIN please sort out this site. It is a disgrace. Like virtually everybody here the password is virtually impossible to remember that we received on signing up and many of us rely on cookies in the computer to remember the password. However it seems that when I go to post a new topic it won't even remember that password anymore. I have had enough

I am out of here until something is done with this board. I can't even post this topic in a relevant thread!!!!! See you all at radiowaves.fm's message board.

I think this board has great potential and I really hate to see it go downhill. It has virtually dried up.

 

fmfreddie

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you're right STUTTERING JOHN , radiowaves.fm is the new place to hang out , pure and simple , I'm there with you!

JAMESDEANE

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John I agree and like many others have been saying the same for months, is radiowaves thee place or have we anywhere else?

FM

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lefthander

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What's the story with red-hot fm? have they got their studios? what are they like? Do they have any staff? Have they poached anyone from the other locals? Who have they got? When are they up and running? Anyone know anything?

Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 20/10/2001 : 21:11:36

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I see the logo has been changed again!

www.redfm.ie

Hack

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22 Posts Posted - 22/10/2001 : 15:16:57

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This is on INN today:

RED FM, Cork's newest radio station is seeking a News and a Sports

Broadcast Journalist.

The successful candidates must be highly motivated and have previous radio experience.

Please send your CV and demo tape to: -

Lana O'Connor, News Editor, RED FM, HLB Nathan & Co., Lavitts Quay, Cork.

 

 

 

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Interesting news that Charlie Wolf might be joining Red FM. I presume this is for the breakfast show, as another shift would be a waste of his talent.

96FM must be very worried about the imminent arrival of the new station.

Anyone know at this stage if the rest of the lineup has been announced?

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 10/11/2001 : 12:16:14

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Red Hot is shaping up to be exactly that. Did someone say Charlie Wolf?! Why does Cork get a station like this and Dublin is left with lots of crap with a few rare jewels?

Radio Freak

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Word on the grapevine down by my own lovely lee is that the line up for red is as follows:

BREAKFAST Richie O'Shea - ex 95Fm

MORNINGS Martina O'Donoghue - ex RTE

LUNCH Matt Dempsey - ex 95Fm and Dep PD

DRIVE Keith Cunningham - Ex Galway Bay

TALK - Charlie Wolf - Ex 252 and Talk Sport

newswise lana o connor is moving from fm104 back to her native city and they have taken justin mc carthy from 96Fm

their presenter line up does not match up to what they said they'd give at the oral hearings. where is the new local talent ? and they promised they would not poach from other locals!

Radio Presenter

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30 Posts Posted - 08/12/2001 : 18:25:31

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Any confirmation on the above schedule?

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 09/12/2001 : 03:37:44

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Re Keith Cunningham - Wasn't he earmarked for Spin? Maybe he got tired of waiting!

fmfreddie

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in fairness to keith , would you blame him for giving up on Spin !!

for crying out loud!

But who have they got to do evenings?

kenn1210

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keith Cunningham is doing evenings at red fm . 6-10pm the show is called dance your pants off " not drive as I read. Matt Dempsey is on

drive ,I still dont know why he never went to Dublin because he is a very good jock, i always thought he would be class on 98fm.

ken kelly

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Hi yall,

I have finally had a chance to fix the "change password" problem today. Basically all users can now pick a friendly password by going to the profile link above once logged on. I am also looking into the problems we are having with the speed of the server and will update yall asap.

I understand the frustration of the RA user but please appreciate this board is only a hobby and does not create any revenue.

Thanks for the support.

Ronan

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lights out

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21 Posts Posted - 03/12/2001 : 12:42:09

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Is John still at 252?

If not, who is PD there now? Is there anyone running Mornington house or are the DJs just doing it themselves?

can anyone confirm the final closedown date?

 

 

fmfreddie

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John O hara is still in charge at 252 but speculation is rife on the UK radio discussion boards about an announcement as to where is going to next. An announcement is allegedly soon to be made in the near future if you believe all you read.

252 is still running the non stop rhythm and dance stuff as I was listening over the weekend.......and had my tape deck out recording what is soon to disappear from the longwave frequency..........

There is going to be no real close down date , just a going out with a wimper I heard!

how sad eh........it once was the real dogs danglies!

 

 

 

Basic

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You recorded the output????

Now I realise why its called www.Radioanoraks.com

May be they should rename it www.sadAssNoLife.com

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Dr Don

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I note from time to time Barry Dunne gets a rough time on these boards and I suspect it stems from previous postings made by Barry and his friends but surely if you put personal reasons aside its hard not to agree that Barry is probably the most improved jock on 98FM.

 

His overnight show is going from strength to strength and a viable alternative to Jason Maine is you should find yourself working through the night.

Barry's Sunday night 80's show is also winning rave notices and if he can continue to reinvent himself and maybe his off air persona who knows ? it shouldn't be too long before he finds himself a day time gig.

Johnny C

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I actually agree. Barry is indeed one of the most improved jocks on 98FM. But what others actually had the room for improvement?

People on this board keep referring to Barry's "of air persona". Who gives a **** what a guy's like when he's off air, as long as he gets the numbers? He could eat Romanian babies for all the PD cares I'm sure! Yes, I've heard of a number of people who have problems with him, and maybe he is a dick - but so what?

And speaking of numbers, how many people listen to "that eighties show", (which is called Backtracks, incidentally) on a Sunday night? Anybody know?

Rave reviews aside, it's the numbers that make the money...

fmfreddie

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ahhhhhhhh , well , this thread proves an old saying TRUE! What goes around , come's around , Barry!

But , what i'm going to say is not personal as I believe that everyone makes mistakes and let bygones be bygones.

However , Dr. Don sas that he is "probably the most improved jock on 98FM" , I have to disagree , he's very poor if you put him against the rest like Mark (before he left) and Nails. The difference is night and day! But, that is only my opinion , everyone else is welcome to theirs.

Dr. don also says "His overnight show is going from strength to strength and a viable alternative to Jason Maine is you should find yourself working through the night"

Well , if it is and you didn't substantiate this claim , it should considering that he's been doing it for a long long time now , in fact over looked a long long time now and stuck on this over nighter. Must feel like Ground hog day over and over and over and over......only joking Barry!

Dr. Don also says "Barry's Sunday night 80's show is also winning rave notices and if he can continue to reinvent himself and maybe his off air persona who knows ? it shouldn't be too long before he finds himself a day time gig"

Rave notices what ever they are , but who are noting these? fact is lite Fm (al dunne) has more listeners at this time of night on a Sunday night. check the Jnlrs......

and as Johnny C says "Rave reviews aside, it's the numbers that make the money...

 

i have to agree......

 

Edited by - fmfreddie on 27/11/2001 23:17:13

Edited by - mod2 on 28/11/2001 04:15:19

 

 

kenn1210

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Barry is a good guy , **** the past and pissed up panto's , he is loyal to 98 and they know that and his time will come . If you put in the effort and time and adapt "never ending improvement " to your gig or position then thing's go your way !

If one or two feel bitter on things gone by and insist on bringing up the past ...well it says it all about the type of person you are and the direction your own interest in radio takes you. If you can not be positive about people no matter who, then you have already being left behind... you know I'm right!

Barry your up to it, you just need reminding every now and then. You have achieved alot at a young age and will gain more if you stay in control of your goal's .

ken kelly

 

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Ah will ye cop on! NOBODY who actually works in radio knows there's no such thing as loyalty in the business!! A radio station will f**k you out quicker than you can open a mic when it suits them so the only way to stay working in radio is to have the same attitude! Another reason why your argument is flawed is that you have basic English grammar and people who work successfully in radio have some level of intelligence...

 

kenn1210

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Ya well so much for positive posting's. Cheers "pd" you seem like sound bloke .

ken kelly

 

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Oh the truth hurts that bad eh?? Sorry you're so ignorant BUT I didn't once slag Barry, he's a pretty average jock, suits 98, everyone's happy- my point still stands however on your theories of 'loyalty' to a station...wanna do something "positive", stop pretending you know all there is to know about radio...

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tuneinturnon

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2 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 00:01:56

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advertised the last 2 Sundays

who is in the running - Colm Hayes is the name at the moment

Pilots Pal

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Hayes for spin?? Don't think so!! Do you honestly think that John Taylor would allow the former PD of 104 come into an off shoot of 98.

Colm Hayes is old news! he is well past his sell by date, new blood is needed for Spin, not someone that was pushed from 104.

On a side note I think its a serious error on the senior management in 104 to appoint Dave Kelly as the new PD. Dave has been a lazy arse cruising his way through 104 in the past few years. The only light at the end of the tunnel is that someone like Andy Preston will get assistant PDs job. Then and only then will 104s downturn change!!

 

The Real Stuttering John

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seeing as this password system does not remember the password when posting a new article I have to respond to one for it to work!!! Therefore I suppose this is an appropriate thread to post this. Please admin can you sort out the password situation.

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Youth radio for under 25s and the future

You know one thing a teen probably isn't doing. He probably isn't listening to radio (or legal radio at least).

Whatever teens may be into these days, radio isn't one of them. Being a teen today is a complicated, time-consuming process that presents myriad choices and requires many decisions. And as simple as the concept of radio might seem-free music, whenever and wherever you go-it's lost much of its appeal. Oh, sure: teens listen to radio, but not as much as the rest of us.

TSL is going down as is listened to yesterday and even worse, there's those who listen to NO radio.

See Ya...Don't Wanna Be Ya

Why the teen exodus from radio? Theories abound, but conclusive evidence does not. Some analysts believe it's because teens' eclectic music tastes aren't satisfied by radio's format parameters. True, what 1 station in Ireland can teens honestly call their own..................I'm waiting..........there is none. What station do teens feel proud off? 2FM to a certain degree? How many teens go around on a Sunday afternoon banging out 2FM out of their radio proudly? They do it with radio stations in other countries. Maybe fm 104 at night? Yeah perhaps, but come on, have they a loyal brand. Coke is the drink, MTV is the tv station, Westlife is the band, Nike is the boot......... there is no radio brand for teens. Spin? Not a chance, spin if they have to do 20% news it will not work. A derogation can be achieved under the broadcasting act. Target 15-24? No, Spin needs a 12-24 age group to bring up the figures. The JNLR will need to be lobbied for this change although it will be hard. In USA it is 12+, Australia it's 10+ Do 14 year olds in Ireland not spent money?

Others claim teens are leaving radio because of ever-increasing spot loads, news, talk shows, irrelevant DJ banter, sport, tit-bits, competitions and other clutter on music stations. Still others cite the myriad new technologies through which teens can learn about, hear, and obtain new music. And then there's the notion that teens are multi-tasked to the point that they just don't think they have the time either to listen to radio.

But they do seem to have time to listen to music. Music industry researcher Paragon Research says that teen TSL for recorded music increased more than 30 percent during the 1990s in the USA alone, while Jupiter Media Metrix reports a 500 percent increase in peer-to-peer music swapping services such as aimster and napster since the end of Q1 2001. Additionally, according to Edison Media Research, 85 percent of all persons 12-24 watch MTV on a weekly basis, taking in an average of 4.25 hours per week. So, while these young people might not be listening to radio as much as they once did, they are listening to-and watching-a lot of other media.

Teens know what they want and they want it now. They don't want to wait for their favourite song on the radio when they can go to a peer-to-peer site and get that song right then, or just play it from their hard drive...

"We've seen a 33 percent increase in TSL for recorded music in the 1990s, and downloading audio and burning CDs definitely has to figure into that," observes Paragon Media Strategies' Larry Johnson. "Younger people are much more comfortable using their computers, so they're downloading music and burning their own CDs."

"There are just more media choices for kids these days," Edison Research Director of Research Jayne Charnesky concurs. "The Internet is huge, and MTV's ratings have gone up steadily through the years. Add to that the fact that radio stations just aren't programming to teens, and you're going to see these people go somewhere else, where they can find their music."

 

You Just Don't Understand Me...

Put in simple terms, radio lacks both interactivity and personality, and clashes with the impetuous nature of today's teens. Teens know what they want and they want it now. They don't want to wait for their favourite song on the radio when they can go to a peer-to-peer site and get that song right then, or just play it from their hard drive. Plus, many teens (as well as general listeners) perceive radio as too formulaic, presenting less of a music mix than they tend to enjoy.

Essentially, the teen exodus from radio is driven by two leading factors. First, there's a lot a lot more competition these days. These people have grown up with access to 100 cable/digital channels such as sky, and many more sources of music on the Internet, so there's a lot going on in their lives. Second, we're just not researching younger demographics-we're not targeting them.

One major culprit in this is radio's 10+ year fascination with the 25-45 demo. Since local legal radio came about stations have been targeting this specific age cell and radio has enjoyed solid revenues and strong cash flow-but, as the adult generation has aged (and had children), the under-25 and 45-plus listeners have been all but forgotten. TV and other media have focused much more on at least 18-49, and many times gotten a premium ad rate if they've been able to deliver younger than that, but radio has been pigeonholed as this secondary 25-45 medium for advertisers and we have not been trying to garner an audience below that. There's a huge audience available outside this demo, but the investment simply is not being made.

As in everything in our society, if there's not money behind it, the art goes south," agrees Guy Zapoleon, president of Zapoleon Media Strategies. "When the radio industry collectively embraced the 25-45 demographic, things started changing: buys stopped being about tonnage and instead became focused on demographics. And now we're at the point where, for clarity's sake, we need to go back in and prioritize what's important. So much of what's on radio is driving many people to other media."

 

Hey, Dad...Can I Borrow Ten squid?

Teen-oriented marketers know that, with thousands in disposable pounds available to them, teens have money to burn. The major labels know that teens buy a lot of records. Clothing manufacturers know that teens not only buy a lot of clothes, but they drive fashion. In fact, teens tend to drive taste in a number of consumer segments. We tell ourselves that there aren't any ££ for 12-17 year-olds, that's only partially true. In fact, marketers do have ££ to invest in this demo...but those pounds are being invested in magazines, MTV, cable, visibility at clubs, movie marketing...all sorts of areas that radio is not tapping into. Banks target teens and now even the drinks industry (although not officially) is aiming it's advertising at the young (I saw an article recently about a Smirnoff Ice advert on a poster at a bus-stop beside Muckross school in Dublin). Radio is becoming an "old persons" thing!!

This is why radio should be researching people just a couple of years younger from where even the 18-24 year-old stations start, not just because they are taste-makers, but because next year-or the year after-they are going to be in the demos we care about.

This lack of research in the emerging teen demo is why so many programmers in radio were blind-sided by RnB and hip-hop in the last few years. Stations weren't looking at demos below age 20, but these people finally entered the demos they were researching and they said 'wow, why is everyone into RnB all of a sudden!'

No Butts About It

Radio would do well, in fact, to take a page out of the tobacco companies' playbook. Cigarette manufacturers know all too well (and have denied for years) how critical it is to get consumers to try a product during their teen years. It is during this period that usage patterns and brand loyalty are formed. In other words, if you hook 'em young, you hook 'em for a lifetime.

Ironically, radio is one of the most efficient advertising mass media in existence, but at times it seems incredibly inept at marketing itself. The recording industry knows full well that it is dependent on teen dollars, and markets directly to that segment. So does the fashion industry. So does fast food. So does Big Tobacco. Why, then, does radio ignore the teen demo, believing that "if we build it, eventually they will come...when they're older"?

The same fascination with research that led radio to wrap itself in 25-45 buys also is telling programmers what younger listeners want to hear-but in many cases that research is being ignored. Specifically, teens want to hear music, and they want to hear about music. They want songs back-announced, and they want discussion that is relevant to their interests. They don't want to hear disk jockeys mumbling about the next contest or the next remote broadcast or the next value-added plug for a client.

What interest do teens/young adults have in listening to an ob from a carpet store in say Lucan? NONE

However these young people won't be listening to this "youth station" forever. Musical tastes change as you get older, so a station either needs to change with them or focus on its target and accept that listeners will eventually go to another station. But it's critical to understand that if we lose them from radio altogether-if they're not listening to radio at a young age-radio will not be a factor for them when they get older. It is not the responsibility of Lite fm to recruit young listeners into radio, nor will it be the responsibility of spin fm to recruit listeners into the radio industry and as future 98fm and then Lite fm listeners, but it is the responsibility of the IRTC/BCI to recruit listeners into the industry just as it is the responsibility of other bodies to recruit consumers/audiences and so on. The BCI have failed so far, look at the JNLRs for youth listening. I have mentioned these facts before. 90% of 15+ listened to radio in early 90s, 88% by the mid 90s and recently I read this figure was down to 83%.......and mark my words it will go down even more as people get disillusioned.

Now here is the crucial point for spin and others: All teens are not the same. Why?

Consider that teen years' are very much like dog years," says MarketingProfs.com' Wendy Comeau. In fact, so much growth occurs during one 12-month span that a 13 year-old is far different from a 16 year-old or a 19 year-old. For this reason, as you define who your primary target is, don't segment based on simple demographics. Instead, segment based on benefits that customers care about! Every stage offers a huge, receptive market, but you've got to carefully identify who they are and what interests them," Comeau says. In Ireland for example I always remember a sister of a friend of mine was into Take That when she was 15 in '94 and was always tuned to kiss 103 fm at the time, the Dublin Hot hit station. I met her when she was 16, 3 months later and was a rock chic into the cranberries and tuned to Dave Fanning.

Teenagers also yearn to be heard. They feel very strongly about issues that affect their life, everything from parents to teachers to fashion...and especially to music. Teens want to express their feelings and find others who feel the same as they do," Comeau says. They don't necessarily find this in radio, but P2P services, community websites, and other ways to share with friends meets this requirement.

Additionally, teens are very brand conscious, so it's very important to keep your brand strong. It has to be relevant to them...it has to connect to their lives. You need to know what they're talking about, so read their magazines, watch their TV shows, know who matters to them and who doesn't. Know what makes them mad. Don't take them for granted and don't talk down to them; they get that from their parents and their teachers.

Comeasu also says it's critical to speak their language. Know what phrases they use, and know what phrases might sound stupid coming from a jock who they know is way older than they are. Talk to your audience. Ask for their input; they'll tell you if your idea is "sweet" or if it is "crap."

Above all Spin must stay on top of things. Teens change their minds faster than they change their underwear. For this reason an annual perceptual study is a waste of time and money.

 

 

fmfreddie

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nice to see a comprehensive comment on the board!!! Fair play!

 

tuneinturnon

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2 Posts Posted - 23/11/2001 : 23:33:38

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Great Comment above, but any names ???

There has to be someone in the running. i wonder will they end up being old sghool or new?

letswait and see

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 24/11/2001 : 03:28:35

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Quality stuff John. An outstanding post.

Re; Spin PD - John O' Hara anyone? No longer with 252, has he taken up a new position in the UK already?

 

Love

PMF

PS - Remember those hilarious p*sstake posts you used to do on the old old site John? Any chance of a reprisal?

 

 

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Expect a big announcement re: John O'Hara in the next few weeks. However, nothing to do with Irish radio.

Paul Kavanagh has taken up position with Newstalk and Henry Owens is occupied setting up Red FM in Cork. Either of these guys would have been my first choice. Perfect CHR programming minds.

If I were at Hume house, as soon as Cork is switched on, I would be swapping Dave Kelly with Henry to save FM104 from decline and claw back the pole position!

Spin CEO: Al Dunne?

Spin PD: Liam Thompson?

Of course, the CEO can be the PD too!

 

pete

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david baker?

The Real Stuttering John

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37 Posts Posted - 18/12/2001 : 19:30:51

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thanks to the above and your welcome. Ronan (admin), thanks for the website/board but it was just getting frustrating not being able to post etc. Yourself and indeed John f at radiowaves are both giving us great opportunities to discuss radio

squod

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Fair recount of some points made long ago. Already there is a need to put on air more stations which meet the needs of particular groups and it is obvious large commercial stations are airing repetitive/predictable playlists coupling them with inanimate presenters trying to win mass appeal .

Radio should be exploited for all it's capacity . It is there to bring something to all of us .Really I feel this board should be used for more good reasons , like organising ourselves so as we can bring about positive change .

I think we all need to do that .

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Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 20/11/2001 : 08:45:57

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Why is there all this vitriol concerning Dave Kelly, the newly appointed PD at FM 104 ? Dave should at least be given a honeymoon period of say three months to enable him to ease into his job.

The main problem is can he deal with his former boss Colm now that their roles have been reversed ? I imagine it will be very awkward to say the least.

Rumours still abound about this latest development at Hume House and I hear that Colm will have total autonomy over the Breakfast Show and that Dave will have no input whatsoever.

To me it sounds like the powers that be are giving Colm enough rope....what if he can't pull the programme up....??

From visiting the new board over the past few weeks its apparent there are quite a few would be programmers so why don't a few of you post your suggested line ups' I'll start the ball rolling :

6.00-10.00 Breakfast : Colm Hayes, Johnny Lyons 98fm Sport( very funny when given the chance and often opinionated) and Joan.

10.00-3.00 Mid Morning : Liam Quigley ( he's well worth the money and could be fed up getting up in the early hours for the LITE breakfast)

3.00-7.00 Andy Preston

7.00-10.00 Barry Dunne

10.00-2.00 This is a tricky one, Adrian is one dimensional and might be better returning to the newsroom, I think I'd try Breffeni Clack in talk mode with the occasional song. She'd need an and about nightbeat reporter and there'd be lashings of sex on air, i.e. problems, education etc.

2.00-6-00 Jason Maine

I'm sure there'll be plenty of you who can't wait to tear holes in the above, feel free to do so but try posting your own schedule after you vent your spleen. Who knows Dave Kelly may even garner some good advice from this site.

 

 

Hack

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Well, I for one have no problems with that lineup, and as a former colleague of his I wish Dave the best of luck in his new position.

 

pullmyfinger

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Just a quick thought on this as my coffee is almost finished - I'll post my full thoughts and fantasy schedule later today.

Um, I don't think Joan and Colm are allowed work together again are they?

Where's Steve K in your schedule Don?!

Johnny C

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Well, leave it to me to tear it apart then...

Breakfast : Colm Hayes, Johnny Lyons and Joan. Are you mad? Johnny Lyons, a radio presenter? I don't think so! And Joan has no future with Colm (though she may have a past, eh, eh?).

10.00-3.00 Mid Morning : Liam Quigley - yes, he'd definitely be worth the money, but I don't really see 104 paying it, and listening to him on air, I'd guess he'd be quite content to stay where he is.

3.00-7.00 Andy Preston. What exactly is the attraction of Andy Preston (and I don't mean physically). I have heard him several times on FM104, and I'd say he sounds even more like a pirate than Steven Cooper, and THAT's saying something!

7.00-10.00 Barry Dunne. The guy who does overnights on 98FM. Need I say more?

10.00-2.00 Breffni Clack. An interesting idea. Mine would be to give the gig to Jonathan Healy, and move it to mid-mornings. A good, solid current affairs show, with plenty of light-hearted Gerry Ryan style topics thrown in, with a competent and educated interviewer. I can't praise Healy enough, he sounds class on Sunday nights too - much better than dim - sorry, Jim.

2.00-6-00 Jason Maine. Whatever, it's only overnights. But it's where the young blood should be trained up, so if you're not gonna give the boy jase a daytime gig, then sack him and start recruiting.

Edited by - Johnny C on 20/11/2001 12:59:02

Dr Don

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27 Posts Posted - 21/11/2001 : 08:51:05

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Thanks to Johnny C for his reply, Don't rule Johnny Lyons out so quickly, Have you heard any of his inserts into the breakfast show, they're hilarious, now I know most of them are unintentional but isn't that what makes good radio some of the time.

You're point about overnights is good but early evening (7.10) would make a better training ground as the audience is looking for non stop music and giveaways.

 

The overnight slot or graveyard as its better known can be quite useful at helping to cume numbers for breakfast and Jason could win the game hands down is some help was made available to him.

Finally, I think you're being a bit hard on Barry Dunne. He's worked hard over the last year and the rough edges have been knocked off him plus they've managed to tone down his terrible sense of humour.

Regards,

DR Don

 

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 22/11/2001 : 00:01:18

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how about this schedule ,

Brekkie : Andrew Mangan Aka Dave adams , funny , controversial and bubbly on air!

mid Morn : Nails , from 98 , poach him!

afternoons: Colm Hayes

Evenings : anyone but cooper ! LOL!

Talk Night time: Greg Gaughran.

Over nights : The Boy Jas , let him keep setting the pace!

well , there ya go!

Johnny C

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Yes, yes. Fantasy line-up time again. Yawn.

Well, about Johnny Lyons, indeed I have heard his inserts on the breakfast show, and if you were to listen intently, you'd hear they are quite short, regulated, and a little ott. You'd also hear that Jim and Debbie seem to be sitting there on tinterhooks, worrying about what the bloody hell he's gonna say next. He's a loose cannon!

Dr Don said: "You're point about overnights (that it should be used to train up fresh blood) is good, but early evening (7-10) would make a better training ground". He also said that Barry Dunne (overnight DJ on 98FM) should be put on that gig. Is he not as good as he'll ever get at this stage? And he's hardly new blood.

As for FM Freddie's Post:

The suggestion that Nails be poached from 98FM is an excellent idea - they should've done that when Greg Gaughran "departed". Did he work for them before at one stage though? FM104 are notorious for pay, so I don't know if they could afford him.

"Afternoons: Colm Hayes." I think it's the perfect place for him. The SAC cannot be saved at this stage - just leave it, and be hot in the afternoons, Colm!

"Evenings : anyone but Cooper." - I agree wholeheartedly. I think Steve K was great on that gig a couple of years back. Give it to him.

"Talk Night time: Greg Gaughran." What the hell are you talking about? Greg Gaughran? A talk-show host? I'll presume you meant to say Greg Merriman - anything else is just ludicrous. But I don't foresee him making a return to FM104

"Overnights: The Boy Jase, let him keep setting the pace!" Setting the pace my arse. Sack him. He's s*h*i*t.

I think the chat should concentrate not on fantasy line-ups, but on who gets the gig of deputy PD and Music Director... Any guesses? I'd have a few, but let me hear what you think first, and please don't even consider giving me Andy Preston. I just don't want to hear it.

 

 

Edited by - Johnny C on 22/11/2001 15:50:02

Carl Fletcher

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2 Posts Posted - 22/11/2001 : 18:59:26

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Some interesting ideas and points posted so here's my two cents.

The SAC can be saved and with Colm now free to devote his time to the gig, I'd say it will get better. I'm already enjoying the current Joanless line up and since her departure the show has taken on a slightly more 'laddish' approach. This can only be a good thing as 98 already have the 'housewife' snared.

Jason Maine taken off overnights? Agree. Should have gone to Lite when he had the chance.

Steven Cooper ; Tighten up the links and think first before you speak. He's the best of a bad bunch and if you think otherwise, give me one suitable candidate from the pirates or elsewhere that could do the job any better.

Nails Mahony for 104? Somebody once said to me that Nails was one of the most over-rated jocks ever. And do you know what, they were correct. Great for the 4 second link Sunshine style format but not much else.

Barry Dunne for 104? I've always liked Barry on air - though not as a person - and would say he'd slot in nicely on daytime. I'm guessing you have a personal problem with Barry, Johnny? Not uncommon I suppose.

Andy P sounds like a pirate? I'd imagine the boys at 104 would be delighted with that. After all the reason people like Preston, Gibbs, Greene etc were brought to the station was to give it a younger more 'pirate' feel if you like. And if he sounds like a pirate well then he's doing his job. Sorry to annoy you and suggest him for assistant pd Johnny but he has to be in with a shout ; his credentials speak for themself.

More later

Johnny C

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Yes - just a few things to note...

Firstly, did Jason Maine ever have the "chance" to go to Lite FM? Enlighten me.

I still think Cooper should be taken out the back and shot. Steve K is a far superior night-time jock.

Your point about Nails is valid, yet I personally disagree - even within the four second link, he manages to squeeze far more in. And hey, when did a jock ever get a complaint from a listener for talking too much? (Ahem, Cooper take note).

You say: "Barry Dunne for 104? I've always liked Barry on air - though not as a person - and would say he'd slot in nicely on daytime. I'm guessing you have a personal problem with Barry, Johnny? Not uncommon I suppose." ....... No, from what I hear, it's not uncommon. But actually, I don't know the guy personally - generally if I do, I refrain from posting about them on boards like these. I have heard the tales, but have never witnessed anything of interest. I was told by someone the other night that those overnights are all pre-recorded. Is the eighties show recorded too then?

The notion that FM104 would be delighted if it sounded like a pirate. Well, I do agree. Because most pirates sound better than FM104 at the moment - even Mad Radio! ....... No, but seriously, I don't think FM104's management were hoping that Andy Preston would sound so bad. After all, how many kids listen at that time of day?

Finally, about Preston's "credentials speak for themself" (sic) in regard to the role of Deputy PD. Eh, why? He was a weekend jock not a year ago, he's pretty lame on-air, his musical base seems to be quite confined to dance, and he has limited programming experience.

I'd sooner suggest a PD from the country or something like that. Surely, there must be someone out there better than Mishter Preshton?

 

 

 

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 23/11/2001 : 20:30:41

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Hmmmmmmmmm. Irish people never seem to amaze me, we really are a nation of begrudging b*stards aren't we?

Andy's credentials for giving "creative input" (not necessarily the position of Musical Director) into 104 go back to when he ran the very successful Hot 107 FM and formatted it to a "T". Nobody's said he's going for the job, nobody even said he wants it and yet a couple try to shoot the whole idea down. Why is this? Why is the radio business in Dublin full of people who think like this? A psychiatrist would have a field day at the next PPI awards I'm tellin' ye! To all the green eyed monsters out there who bitch about Andy or Barry, or whoever, look up the term "inferior complex" because I think you may have it unfortunately.

Constructive criticism is ok, unfounded bitching (when you balls up simple facts like Andy's background)isn't.

Getting back to Andy, you say he only has an understanding of the dance spectrum? Utter tosh again, as anyone who knows Andy will validate that the man is virtual Encyclopaedia of popular music in all its forms. One only has to listen to his links on Total Recall to verify this.

104 did not attempt to give the staion a more "pirate feel", they brought in new blood as every company (radio or not) does from time to time. Some have hit the mark, some haven't ....... but at least they had the balls to try it. Like 2FM they realise that they need a couple of John Powers to compliment their Larry Gogans, if you get my drift.

My 2 euro cents on this then .........

Brekkie - Someone new. Ask Charlie Wolf to come up to Dublin instead of Cork maybe?

10 - 3 - Andy Preston. As I've already said, a great asset. Giving him a chance to ad lib a little wouldn't hurt though. Leave him where he is.

3 - 7 - Colm Hayes. Something tells me Hayes would be sh*t hot on this shift.

7 - 10 - Steve K. One thing I do agree with in this thread is Cooperman. Sorry Steve. You HAVE got what it takes, just try and prep a little more. Thats all I'll say there.

10 - 1 - Well we may berate the phone show format but the bottom line is its pulling in the listeners. Greg Merriman coming back is a lovely idea but sheer fantasy. Greg Gaugren coming back to do a talk show is another sound idea in theory but theres too many complications there.

Overnighter - Keep Jase setting the pace in your face while tying his lace (or something). Maine is a radio legend and deserves better then some of the comments he's received in this thread.

Dave Redmond could also very easily slide into the daytime schedule, if he weren't already doing so on another ILR. A tight jock with a great voice.

I'll close by reminding you all about Bono's famous story about the American and the Dubliner in a taxi looking up at the big house on the hill. Know the one Johnny?

Edited by - pullmyfinger on 24/11/2001 16:15:10

 

fmfreddie

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A for **** sakes lads , It was a quick fantasy line up I lashed up on the net in a couple of minutes , thats all , no more or less , sheer fantasy , for crying out loud , but thanks for the all the lively discussion!

some nice thoughts in there , like Charlie wolf on brekkie , and Greg Merriman back on talk!

But I will question the Barry Dunne proposal , like as one person said , he does 98 overnights for crying out loud , nuff said.

As for the Dave Redmond thing , I'm not so sure , its like the boring 2fm Garreth o Calorgas and Damien farelly thing , nice , safe and sound and not too risky! We d'ont want 104 going down the 2fm route , now do we???

Johnny C

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Thank you, Freddie, for injecting a bit of common sense into this argument. I think a lot of people (Pullmyfinger) need to put this board into perspective, and realise it's only a bit of anoraking. I think the Society Against Posting Slander are working a little too much overtime.

By the way, I never knew Andy Preston had any "creative input" into the running of FM104. I'd like to hear the details on that one. It wasn't his idea, by any chance, to have a big splash in Marlay Park was it? Or to f*u*c*k Rick O'Shea out? My, those lads really do know how to run a hot station!

And I did try to look up the term "inferior complex". It doesn't make any sense, you idiot. You should try looking up the term "moron".

Now, PMF, you say "Constructive criticism is ok, unfounded bitching (when you balls up simple facts like Andy's background)isn't."

I didn't balls up anyone's background! What I said was: "He was a weekend jock not a year ago, he's pretty lame on-air, his musical base seems to be quite confined to dance, and he has LIMITED programming experience."

Hardly a balls-up! You seem to find fault with my statement, because he did, in fact run: "the very successful Hot 107 FM and formatted it to a "T". And for this reason, you think Andy should be the deputy PD of FM104? But what about your argument that "104 did not attempt to give the staion (sic) a more "pirate feel" when they took on some pirate jocks." Hot was a pirate, was it not?

I'm getting bored tearing your idiocy to shreds, so I'll just make one more point: the main music programmers in this country have YEARS of experience under their belt before they get their gigs: Tom Hardy, Colm Hayes, John Clarke, Henry Owens, Paul Kavanagh, John O'Hara, Scott Williams and John Taylor are at this a bloody long time.

I don't think running a garden shed pirate for year or so really gives Preston the edge.

 

I'm sure Andy's having a good laugh at this.

PS - you say "Like 2FM they (FM104) realise that they need a couple of John Powers to compliment their Larry Gogans, if you get my drift." Could you tell me who their Larry Gogan's ARE exactly? They all sound like pirates to me except Steve K, who hardly sounds like Uncle Larry.

Edited by - Johnny C on 26/11/2001 15:05:42

fmfreddie

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here , here , Johnny , sometimes you can nearly smell the ****e some of these muppets are posting on this forum!

 

Carl Fletcher

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Hmmm.... Little did I realise that when I decided to speak up for a few people on this forum, all hell would break loose. Who said Radio Anoraks was dead? It would seem some of the old school ****stirrers are still among us in the shape of Johnny Coward and the oh so innocent FM Freddie. Talk about ****e Freddie? Let's hope you don't have to use a phonebox in the near future - the whiff may overwhelm you.

I think everyone has said just about enough and some have said some things they may regret in the future. However, they are opinions and right or wrong, they must be respected.

I don't know Andy very well but yes Johnny, i'd say you are correct in saying that he probably is having a good laugh at all this.

pullmyfinger

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46 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 00:30:20

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Ho hum

Johnny C: "I never knew Andy Preston had any "creative input" into the running of FM104"

He doesn't. What I meant was that even if he never gets to move up the ladder with the current re-shuffle that his opinion should be respected with regard to the stations output. In fairness I don't think I made myself clear enough there.

JC: "You seem to find fault with my statement, because he did, in fact run: "the very successful Hot 107 FM and formatted it to a "T". And for this reason, you think Andy should be the deputy PD of FM104?

No I don't and I never did. See above. My whole point of replying to your initial bitter post (where you slagged off SEVERAL people) was because its description of Preston as been "lame" and your laughably arrogant tone p*ssed me off.

"But what about your argument that "104 did not attempt to give the staion (sic) a more "pirate feel" when they took on some pirate jocks." Hot was a pirate, was it not?"

Yes it was and very successful at that. Listen Johhny, grow the f*ck up. Didn't 2FM lift their "no pirate DJs" clause after the big shutdown of '88? Did Colm Hayes, GO'C et all then go and make the national station sound like a pirate?? Your delusion that 104 WANT to sound like a pirate because they took on a few ex Pulse DJs and Andy barely merits a reply.

Another one of your classic nuggets:

"3.00-7.00 Andy Preston. What exactly is the attraction of Andy Preston (and I don't mean physically). I have heard him several times on FM104, and I'd say he sounds even more like a pirate than Steven Cooper, and THAT's saying something!"

Ok. So you DID look up "inferior complex" then? Ye sure?

"Could you tell me who their Larry Gogan's ARE exactly? They all sound like pirates to me except Steve K, who hardly sounds like Uncle Larry"

It was a figure of speech to compare the younger guys to their veterans like Hayes and Maine, maybe you don't grasp the intelligence to figure that out If they ALL sound like pirates (bar Steve - according to you) why do you want Colm on Afternoons then eh?

 

Lets have a round of applause for another flawed JC post then. Good man.

I think, for the sake of Andy alone,(an innocent party in all this mess and a very nice guy too), that we should leave it at that Johnny.

Don't forget now Johnny son ::::::::::::: "Inferior. Complex"

 

Edited by - pullmyfinger on 27/11/2001 00:42:48

 

Johnny C

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Inferior Complex? (Cringe).

Look, pullmyfinger, this is the last post I'm going to make to you, and I'm going to ignore your idiocy after that. You're obviously a little 15 year old wally, who 'wants ta be on da rajo", with no idea of what you're talking about, so I'm prepared to simplify things for you, since you're getting caught up in childish semantics (look it up, Einstein).

1 - Go back and look at your post... You never said that my description of Andy Preston as "lame" was wrong. In fact, the only thing you did say was: "unfounded bitching (when you balls up simple facts like Andy's backround)isn't" ok. The whole "lame" thing didn't even enter into your initial argument!

2 - My "delusion that 104 WANT to sound like a pirate"? I said no such thing, you wally. I was referring to YOUR statement which claimed that they didn't (you said: 104 did not attempt to give the staion (sic) a more "pirate feel"). And your contradictory statement which said that, because AP ran Hot 107, he'd be in the running for a "creative input" gig in FM104. Just to make it clear for you: I do not think that FM104 want to sound like a pirate. I think it's purely by accident that they do. And don't even think about comparing the jocks on the superpirates of the eighties to today's garden shed operations. It's not even the same sport, let alone ballgame.

3 - Following "Another one of your classic nuggets". I don't really get your argument there. But then again, I'm not sure even you do.

4 - Ah, using "Larry Gogan" as a figure of speech. I thought that by "Larry Gogan" you would've meant classic, old-style, reliable, liner-card jocks. A bit like Larry himself. I was wrong I suppose.

5 - Oh, and it's inferiorITY complex. With an I.T.Y. Idiot.

 

 

"Don't forget now Johnny son ::::::::::::: Inferior. Complex" Ha! Ha!

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Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 27/11/2001 : 18:59:00

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So why exactly is Andy Preston qualified to be deputy PD at FM104?

Does he have comprehensive knowledge of the complexities of selector and how o best utilise the software?

Does he know how to read and interpret research data from JNLR and in-house tracking?

Can he critique presenters in a non confrontational, constructive manner?

Does he have the leadership skills required to inspire the jocks to give 110% to make the station more successful?

Does he have the negotiation skills to solve staff conflicts?

And perhaps most importantly; Does he understand the daily work of all other departments in the station and how to achieve synergy between his and those departments?

If Andy can answer "yes" to these questions then he may well be the right person to assist Dave Kelly. If not, Dave should look elsewhere for a deputy and Andy should make it his business to learn all he can so that he CAN answer yes next time.

Picking great music for a pirate for a year does not qualify anyone for a management role in one of the country's largest commercial broadcasters.

 

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Fair points raised there Irish Mike as always. But pardon me for being cynical for a moment here. Is the actual PD i.e. Dave capable of performing many of those tasks? Critique presenters constructively? Leadership skills? Synergy? I think not. Dave knows his music, and has done a reasonable job of picking the right tunes for 104 (the last six months excepted) but he most certainly is not a leader. That's not being bitchy, just an honest opinion. If I was more cynical than I already am, I would be speculating about a sale in the air, and thus the appointment of the new PD. Hope he knows that too.

Mister 807

 

pete

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re: the pd job, they should entice the likes of david baker back to the emerald isle. He would work well with dave kelly although he is known to have always hated the sight of colm hayes, so its very unlikely.

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re: the pd job, they should entice the likes of david baker back to the emerald isle. He would work well with dave kelly although he is known to have always hated the sight of colm hayes, so its very unlikely.

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Why do I get the feeling YOU are DB?! 2 posts in 10 mins re: DB and a PD position.........

 

 

 

db

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firstly i am the real db, secondly if i wanted to put my name forward for either the fm 104 or spin job I would do it quite openly. let me make my situation very clear, I am still the PC at chelmer fm recently taken over by tindle radio. I have no desire at all to move along or back to Ireland, this has been the subject of talk for a while. I keep in touch with former colleagues in the Irish industry and often say maybe one day I will go back, and this seems to get taken out of context.

so my friend radio presenter it seems you were wrong on those postings, it is pure coincidence, i've a big job to do at chelmer fm and people can throw my name about as much as they want but its all rubbish.

now as for colm hayes, I haven't seen or spoken to him for 15 years and never had anything to do with him when i was over there.

this i am sure will clear things up

by the way hello to my old mate dr don!!!

regards

 

 

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Fair enough David. Thanks for being so honest and clearing things up. I'm sure you can understand why I was suspicious! I hope it's all going according to plan since the acquisition.

Over and out.

db

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thanks for that, whilst on the subject i think paul chantler would be a major coup for the likes of spin fm, he made a success of vibe fm over here in its early days...he is a nice chap and his knowledge of dance music is second to none.

pullmyfinger

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Johnny C, you bitter little f*ckwit, the comments in your very first post are what made me reply and I still stand by my response. You've chosen not to comment on the fact that you slagged several presenters with f*ck all in the way backing up your thoughts. Anyone who thinks I'm going overboard here should read the gobs*ite's initial post on this thread.

Ian VanDahl

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i think that fm104 needs a shake up and dave hopefully will do it! good luck to him

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Irish Mike,

You have raised some valid questions, but I can't help feeling that you have something against the younger generation progressing through the ranks - much the same as Dr. Don seems to LOVE barry Dunne.

You obviously know your radio - how did you learn your radio experience? And I don't think you would score top marks for some of the criteria you mentioned either..

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As for David Baker, I seem to remember you posting several messages on various anorak boards stating that you were looking to come back to Ireland?

 

Irish Mike

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Banana Flaps (BTW Love the name!!) I have nothing against the "younger generation". I made those points because I think it's important for everyone to realise just what the deputy PD/Music Director post entails. If I'm teaching anyone to suck eggs, I apologise. It seemed to me that Andy Preston was being tipped simply because he picked some good tunes for Hot107. If I'm wrong and Andy turns out to be the right man for the job then good luck to him.

I agree also with Mister807's comments about the present incumbent's credentials. I learned my craft in the "classic pirates" of the early eighties and, although I'd like to think I have all of the skills I mentioned in abundance, I probably could still learn a thing or two. After all the day you stop learning in this game is the day you should give up.

DeargDoom

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22 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 00:16:42

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Hi all!

I've enjoyed reading all of Irish Mikes contributions to this board over the past few months. I don't think he has any problems with the 'new generation' of jocks.

Heres one I'm going to throw out to those on both sides of the pirate/legal divide; you have a lot more in common than you know.

Mister 807, I'm sure you'll agree that the high level of control over the broadcast spectrum has hindered many of the more 'respectable' pirates.

Irish Mike, you've probably seen first hand the nonsensical hoops that the BCI make legal broadcasters jump through.

BCI - the biggest problem that ANY broadcasters have to face today? Discuss....

 

..."Another year over and a new one just begun" New Topic Reply to Topic

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Irish Mike

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28 Posts Posted - 24/12/2001 : 23:51:59

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Happy Christmas to one and all. And a special yuletide greeting to my RadioAnoraks "adversaries" RadioMad, Mister807 et al. It's been a pleasure gentlemen I look forward to more animated debate in 2002.

Cheers guys!!

ScottB

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Ireland

20 Posts Posted - 25/12/2001 : 14:09:11

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First year on the board, made for very interesting reading. Here's to another year of fun and frolics. Happy Christmas and hope ye all have a Fantastic New Year.

Cheers,

Scott B

Mister807

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Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 26/12/2001 : 00:02:44

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Right back at ya' Irish Mike. Its been a pleasure. Heres to not just good debates in 2002, but good progress in radio too! Have a good one, and same to all the other posters here and on Radiowaves.fm.

Mister807

 

Radio Mad

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 28/12/2001 : 14:31:12

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Seasons Greeting to you Irish Mike and everyone else who contributes to Radio Anoraks and Radiowaves. The debates have been both illuminating and interesting.

Here's to 2002.

 

The Real Stuttering John

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Ireland

37 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 04:57:57

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ah yes, now on test www.sun80s.com about 30% of the website there and launching to the public people in 101 days.

www.sun80s.com and according to www.radiowaves.fm it is also at

www.suneighties.com

great audio, maybe the bast yet?

 

 

The Real Stuttering John

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Ireland

37 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 12:09:46

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sorry, I got carried away!!!! Anyway just dropping in to wish all the above and those reading this a Happy 2002 and keep the banter going

Red fm ...the line up!! New Topic Reply to Topic

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kenn1210

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Ireland

5 Posts Posted - 16/12/2001 : 15:42:20

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Red fm have a super line up, I've just heard this from a member of

staff , there is just one uncertain in the line up but here is what I got so far.

6-10am Richie o'Shea ..ex 95 brekkie

10-2pm Robin banks ..ex virgin and 252

2-6pm Matt Dempsey ..ex live 95

6-10pm Keith Cunningham.. ex Galway bay fm dance , current fm104 weekend breakfast, he's doing dance and hip-hop in this slot the show is called "dance your pants off"

10-1am Charlie Wolf...late nite talk, How the f*@K did they get him??

In all fairness that kicks the ass off any Dublin station at the moment. 96fm in cork are in a spot of bother with that on their tail and they will wipe 2fm and today fm off the map (2fm deserve it) .

The robin banks thing is a whisper so make what you will of it, but don't hold your breath.

They are looking for strong weekend on air staff but so far this is who they are starting with.

Fri 6pm -10pm Pete tong (radio 1's essential mix for cork ...****.)

10-1am Keith Cunningham ...dance until 1 or 2am

Sat morning Matt Dempsey

Sat afternoon Keith Cunningham

Sat evening Stevie G .. r n'b and hip hop, one of the best club jocks in the country.

the rest of the weekend ive not heard just yet!

Well lads and ladies Henry Owens has pulled off another serious line up ...what do you guy's think of it??

ken kelly

 

 

aja

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United Kingdom

12 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 15:51:22

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Surely the RedFM line-up is out of date as I've heard Charlie Wolf is to join Capital Radio in London in the near future. I'm not sure if he's to host a show on Capital Gold or their FM service (as a temporary replacement for Chris Tarrent who wants to take a sabbatical) but it's due to happen soon.

 

Irelands PD

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11 Posts Posted - 31/12/2001 : 01:06:49

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I can say without a doubt that Charlie will not be goin to Capital...

Your New Year's Wish List New Topic Reply to Topic

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Radio Mad

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 31/12/2001 : 12:39:21

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In radio terms, my wish list for the New Year includes the long awaited return of Premier FM, a Gem FM with signal strength and audio quality like it used to be and a good quality Irish Talk radio station.

What's yours?

 

 

The Sky digi box radio station menu? New Topic Reply to Topic

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fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 25/11/2001 : 23:13:06

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why is BBCRADIO 1 not on the main menu on the digi box and you have to go into OTHER CHANNELS to get at it, its a pain!!??

And why is Yorin Fm and other top European stations not on the digibox , cos they are on other satellite services?

And what do you guys think of the news of 2fm etc getting on the digibox!

 

kenn1210

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Ireland

5 Posts Posted - 17/12/2001 : 12:49:24

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because radio 1 is on "b.b.c. digital" like all the b.b.c radio services, pain in the hole ya i know!! That was one of the let down's of the upgrade.

ken kelly

sylvester

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Ireland

2 Posts Posted - 31/12/2001 : 01:18:00

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What's the story with itv and itv2. I can get them in OTHER CHANNELS . Itv regional stations are on . Itv2 channel is on but its sayion the channel is not available. Does anyone know what's happening and how to receive it. And if anyone has any more frequencies , I't be grateful!!!!!

OTG

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United Kingdom

5 Posts Posted - 31/12/2001 : 21:37:57

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What's the story with itv and itv2. I can get them in OTHER CHANNELS . Itv regional stations are on . Itv2 channel is on but its sayion the channel is not available. Does anyone know what's happening and how to receive it. And if anyone has any more frequencies , I't be grateful!!!!!

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ITV2 is not available as a free to air or free to view channel - you must have at least a Sky Digital subscription in the UK to view it (I can't remember if it is the Value or Family Pack)

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"Do you keep the receipts for all the friends that you buy?....."

Edited by - OTG on 31/12/2001 21:39:34

 

fmfreddie

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What's the story with itv and itv2. I can get them in OTHER CHANNELS . Itv regional stations are on . Itv2 channel is on but its sayion the channel is not available. Does anyone know what's happening and how to receive it. And if anyone has any more frequencies , I't be grateful!!!!!

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ITV2 is not available as a free to air or free to view channel - you must have at least a Sky Digital subscription in the UK to view it (I can't remember if it is the Value or Family Pack)

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Agreed , ITV2 is not available on the Skydigi I have , but if there is a way of getting it in the republic , please tell all.

You can get Fox news as a clean channel , but the go to ads very often and you're left with just a logo card and crappy music while they are doing their ads....however , they're Afganistan US striking back coverage is good!

 

visit http://www.radiowaves.fm/news/digibox.htm for the full low down on this.

 

 

Edited by - fmfreddie on 01/01/2002 17:18:29

Save your passwords in mobile phone! New Topic Reply to Topic

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Irelands PD

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11 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 22:25:06

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In this day and age, I'd say almost everybody that posted regularly on this site has a mobile??? Why not save your password in your 'outbox' or 'phonebook' and then maybe the fate of this site could be turned around? The 'viewed' counter on each topic clearly shows that this site is still getting the hits (sounds like a Tony Fenton cheesey phrase)so if we could have easy access to the passwords, it might help...

Stuttering John, ye KNOW ye want to!!!!

Over 'n Out,

Happy HO HO

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 24/12/2001 : 13:56:10

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thing is you shouldn't have to !

It's too late anyway, the radiowaves board has really taken off with some lively discussion!

 

Admin

Forum Admin

23 Posts Posted - 24/12/2001 : 19:08:56

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As explained b4 simply log on go to the "Profile" link and change the password to one you will remember!!!!

Radio Mad

Starting Member

Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 28/12/2001 : 14:40:43

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It works; I have just changed my password to one I can remember. Thanks admin.

There is no reason why the two boards, Radiowaves and Radio Anoraks can't survive alongside one another. Due congratulations and thanks to those involved in providing us these fine services free of charge.

 

 

JAMESDEANE

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 01/01/2002 : 11:33:03

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FOLLOWED THE CHANGES AND NOW HAVE MY NEW PASSWORD, HOPE THINGS GET GOING HERE AGAIN, ALSO CAN WE HAVE SOME DECENT LEGAL REGIONAL OR LOCAL RADIO DISCUSSIONS!!!PLEASE

FM

Sarah Baybay

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 01/01/2002 : 17:47:29

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Cheerz admin! much much better!

 

 

 

Use of 252 LW Under Question New Topic Reply to Topic

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Radio Mad

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Ireland

46 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 01:31:07

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A former employee of RTE has urged the Minister for Arts, Heritage, Gaeltacht and the Islands, Sile De Valera to block the deal, which would see the 252 long wave transmitter and frequency falling into foreign ownership.

Enda O'Kane wants the TeamTalk acquisition of Atlantic 252 blocked and maintains the minister has it within her power to do so.

Utilisation as a national asset for use in times of national importance such as a nuclear emergency is just one of the uses he says the frequency could be put to. Another is to broadcast diverse programmes of interest to people north and south of the border - in accordance with the objectives of the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement.

Ex Taoiseach John Bruton has expressed the wish that a station broadcasting to the Irish in Britain with material acquired from public service and commercial broadcasters in the 32 counties is his preferred option.

What do you think?

 

 

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 17:30:55

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I have to agree , but it seems like it's just a little too much , a little too late!

Enterprise

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Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 04:06:59

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I agree also but it would be nice to see Atlantic 252 back on as its former self who else agrees???

 

Atlantic Tribute CD - available soon New Topic Reply to Topic

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Atlantic 252

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4 Posts Posted - 28/12/2001 : 20:01:43

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A tribute CD of Alantic 252 may soon be available. This will be the final programme that was heard on 252 (except the songs).

Better again the compilation is a studio copy of the tribute.

More details can be got here:

http://www.dreamwater.net/a252tribute/

 

 

Atlantic 252

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 17:28:42

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I wouldn't bother with this feeble effort to make a few quid on the closedown of such a memorable station.

It'll be a first to find anoraks paying for things like a close down tape , especially when it can be had of fellow anoraks for nowt !

I have a copy and will have it available on the net to download free of charge very soon"!

Enterprise

Starting Member

Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 04:08:38

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have u the full thing ?????

Atlantic 252 this evening...... New Topic Reply to Topic

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fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 20/12/2001 : 18:25:08

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Atlantic 252 featured a tribute to it's contribution to music radio over the last 12 years with an over an hour special of old tunes and airchecks from all the old jocks on 252.

It was mindblowing........and reminded me of what such a great loss music radio really is on 252 longwave!

 

The Real Stuttering John

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Ireland

37 Posts Posted - 20/12/2001 : 18:52:42

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heard it from about 5.30pm. oh yes the memories came back all right. Didn't hear much of the early days but I assume that was on before 5.30 PM.

fantastic

rapido

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6 Posts Posted - 22/12/2001 : 00:10:50

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fmfreddie,

I don't suppose you recorded that as well, did you? ;-)

a shame i missed it..........

-rapido

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 22/12/2001 : 00:37:16

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fmfreddie,

i don't suppose you recorded that as well, did you? ;-)

a shame i missed it..........

-rapido

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yes , got the last hour of it on tape.......excellent.......

ScottB

Starting Member

Ireland

20 Posts Posted - 22/12/2001 : 00:54:41

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Check out http://www.atlantic252.com New logo of TEAMtalk252 online and info on the station. By the way fmfreddie, can I get my dirty mits on that recording?

Cheers,

Scott B

Edited by - ScottB on 22/12/2001 00:57:07

 

rapido

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6 Posts Posted - 22/12/2001 : 13:58:04

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okay, fmfreddie,

guard that recording carefully and remove the write-protect tab!!!!

....and when I need a copy, I'll let you know ;-)

(i'm creating an Atlantic 252 tribute site in association with ex-DJ Charlie Wolf)

cheers matey,

rapido

wickedbass

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2 Posts Posted - 22/12/2001 : 18:38:04

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I've got 16:30 - 18:02hrs on a MiniDisc.....

Wish I'd not set the timer - but was only expecting an hour of stuff...

rapido

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6 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 01:13:26

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wicked mate!!!

i'll let you know if I need your copy ;-)

btw, if anyone can contribute to the upcoming tribute site, then please let me know....

-rapido

 

 

rapido

Starting Member

6 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 09:14:38

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Hey both fmfreddie and wickedbass,

if you could both e-mail me here: 252tribute@fluce.co.uk

and i -will- eventually need your copies.... that is, if you'll be nice enough to make a copy of them ;-)

Don't worry, I'll make it worth your while.

Hopefully, I'll then be able to have this compilation to download on the tribute site.

(If you can't/won't make a copy, then also just let me know)

Anyway, have a nice Christmas!!!

-rapido

aja

Starting Member

United Kingdom

12 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 15:38:53

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When does Atlantic 252 cease and become TalkSport252?

Will they be repeating this tribute?

PS Rapido & Charlie Wolf: Best of luck with your tribute. More details please?

PS (ii): I may have the first hour or so tape. If you're interested I'll check.

wickedbass

Starting Member

2 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 15:43:32

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No problem at all... Let me know if you need it - I have dropped you an email.

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 23/12/2001 : 15:58:40

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Hey both fmfreddie and wickedbass,

if you could both e-mail me here: 252tribute@fluce.co.uk

and i -will- eventually need your copies.... that is, if you'll be nice enough to make a copy of them ;-)

Don't worry, i'll make it worth your while.

Hopefully, I'll then be able to have this compilation to download on the tribute site.

(If you can't/won't make a copy, then also just let me know)

Anyway, have a nice Christmas!!!

-rapido

 

Hey rapido , consider It Aok in my books , jusr e-mail me ' fmfreddie@hotmail.com when ur ready , Also , i can possibly get you the entire tribute.....let me know !

ps...merry xmas and i'm looking forward to the site , kool and the gang!

Jason McKay

Starting Member

Ireland

1 Posts Posted - 24/12/2001 : 08:05:20

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Will Team Talk 252 still broadcast from the studio's in Ireland???

Jason McKay

"Drive Time"

Monday - Friday

4pm till 7pm

 

fmfreddie

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52 Posts Posted - 24/12/2001 : 13:53:04

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Will Team Talk 252 still broadcast from the studio's in Ireland???

 

Jason McKay

"Drive Time"

Monday - Friday

4pm till 7pm

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Hi Jason ,

No , teamtalk 252 will relay their signal over to trim via ISDN or whatever and possibly by pass Morningtom house and have the signal sent direct to the awsome site in Summerhill.

So , Jason , what station do you do your drive time gig on? So I can have a listen in !

Edited by - fmfreddie on 24/12/2001 13:54:37

 

Author

Atlantic 252

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4 Posts Posted - 28/12/2001 : 19:44:30

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A tribute CD of Alantic 252 may soon be available. This will be the final programme that was heard on 252 (except the songs).

Better again the compilation is a studio copy of the tribute.

More details can be got here:

http://www.dreamwater.net/a252tribute/

Enterprise

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Ireland

9 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 04:13:27

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when will the website be up and running rapido?????

 

When is Red FM due to "hit" the airwaves? New Topic Reply to Topic

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Tangerine Dream

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1 Posts Posted - 31/12/2001 : 12:45:41

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When is Red FM due to "hit" the airwaves?

vdub

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Ireland

2 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 16:30:49

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Red is starting at the end of Jan. Charlie wolf announced this on Talk Sport UK on his final show last Sunday night it was great show. He had to explain to many people in UK where Cork was. I hope it works out for him it is a big step to take He will be missed in the UK.

vdub

Stevie Zodiac

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3 Posts Posted - 03/01/2002 : 16:34:18

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January 14th or 16th...

Highland website New Topic Reply to Topic

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Justin Speck

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9 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 19:17:47

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I see Highland Radio have redesigned their website. I note the design is by the Q-network. Is Highland Radio owned by the ubiquitous Frankie McLaughlin? <NO>

JAMESDEANE

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Ireland

28 Posts Posted - 03/01/2002 : 12:00:50

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hostings my dear son hostings! I think Mid-West are also being hosted by Q or are they streaming for them not quite sure!

FM

106 listener

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3 Posts Posted - 06/01/2002 : 14:59:32

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highland radio has stooped really low this time getting Q to do there website, might I add it looks better than Q's own site

DeargDoom

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Ireland

22 Posts Posted - 06/01/2002 : 16:37:37

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106 listener says "highland radio has stooped really low this time getting Q to do there website" (grammar not corrected!)

What the hell do you mean man? Whats wrong with that? You're not making the slightest bit of sense to us! Please explain further!

 

 

RedFM 104.5-106.1 Cork, transmitters now on test New Topic Reply to Topic

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F3E

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Ireland

7 Posts Posted - 13/12/2001 : 19:33:03

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RedFM 104.5-106.1, transmitter now on test:

High Power transmitters:

104.5 Nowen Hill, near Bantry (V)

105.7 Corran Mountain, (Nagles Mountain range) near Mallow (C)

106.1 Knocknaheeny Watertower, Cork city (C)

Low Power transmitters:

105.1 Youghal Watertower, Youghal (C)

105.4 Strawhall, Fermoy (C)

 

 

Justin Speck

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9 Posts Posted - 13/12/2001 : 20:51:52

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RedFM 104.5-106.1, transmitter now on test:

High Power transmitters:

104.5 Nowen Hill, near Bantry (V)

105.7 Corran Mountain, (Nagles Mountain range) near Mallow (C)

106.1 Knocknaheeny Watertower, Cork city (C)

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Thanks for the update. I expected 106.1 to be Spur Hill and 105.7 to be Mt Hillary. Excuse my geography but I presume these are slightly different sites albeit close enough for international co-ordination purposes.

Regards,

J

F3E

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7 Posts Posted - 29/12/2001 : 10:20:58

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Mt Hillary (where Cork 96/103FM's 96.1 and 103.7 is) is roughly 7 or 8 miles WEST of the town of Mallow

The RedFM Nagles mountains site (105.7) is roughly 7 or 8 miles EAST of Mallow (nearest village is Killavullen)

The 106.1 is sited on the same hill as Cork 96FM/103FM's 96.4 and 102.6 site on the North West side of the city of Cork. Spur Hill where the RTE site is on the South West of the city

 

Justin Speck

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9 Posts Posted - 30/12/2001 : 14:10:12

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The 106.1 is sited on the same hill as Cork 96FM/103FM's 96.4 and 102.6 site on the North West side of the city of Cork.

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Sorry to be troublesome but is this the site called "Hollyhill"? I note that you say the same hill rather than the same site. Presumably Red is not co-sited with 96/103 then?

BTW, can you confirm the freq of Nowen Hill as 104.5? The ITU had an entry for "W Cork" on 105.4MHz. I just want to make sure you didn't transpose the two numbers.

Others which have gone for clearance are Kinsale 105.2 and "NE Cork3" on 105.0 (I had assumed this would be Fermoy/Kilworth/Mitchelstown but possibly not if they now have Fermoy on 105.4).

Source of info:

http://www.itu.int/brtpr/brific/Files/ge84_115.pdf

Looking forward to your reply

J

 

vdub

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2 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 16:38:31

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Yes it appears to be 104.5 on Nowen hill. I saw the new site St Stevens day It looks like a 20 m mast and just a steel box for the transmitter. This is the 5th mast plus 1 more being erected at Nowen Hill.

vdub

F3E

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Ireland

7 Posts Posted - 02/01/2002 : 21:46:02

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To update you RedFM are still putting out test tone with stereo pilot and RDS PS ' RedFM ' , they also have the RDS Traffic 'TP' indicator on as well. Brief transmissions of music have occasionally been broadcast late at night.

The 106.1 transmitter is indeed on the same hill 'Hollyhill' but not the same site as 96FM/103FM. 106.1 is from an existing two-way radio mast on the large Watertower nearby.

I can confirm absolutely RedFM are indeed using 104.5 (not 105.4) in West Cork, why the document should say 105.4 I do not know. 105.4 would in fact have been preferable as it would be quicker/easier to retune non-RDS radios whilst travelling! Either (a) there is a plan to change the frequency (b) an error has occurred (c) the frequency was altered SINCE that document for some reason (note the 'Fermoy' transmitter is on 105.4 ,

BTW When the West Cork (104.5) transmitter was first put on test it was very weak but it has since increased in strength greatly, now being stronger than 96FM's 95.8 and almost as strong as 103FM's 103.3 which are both from a different site on the same mountain (Nowen Hill).

re. 105.7

I suspect that the ODTR/BCI got 105.7 co-ordinated to Mt Hillary in the hope that 96/103FM would share some of their transmission facilities with Red FM (there is no other mast at Mt Hillary), in reality this was unlikely to happen!. RedFM it turned out are using a cellphone site on the different Mountain for the 105.7 in North Co. Cork. Also note the location of the Fermoy transmitter on 105.4 differs greatly in location from the N E Cork allocation on 105.0 in that document.

Justin Speck

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9 Posts Posted - 06/01/2002 : 20:10:35

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I suspect that the ODTR/BCI got 105.7 co-ordinated to Mt Hillary in the hope that 96/103FM would share some of their transmission facilities with Red FM

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I presume BCI applied for clearance for the most likely sites to speed things up for up for who ever won the franchise. This sometimes happens in the UK too; you get something like "applicants may use any site they choose but should note that using sites other than those already cleared may delay their on air date"

BTW, Red's application listed 10 sites. The existing 5 txs already show some variance from that list. Anyone know if Red have plans to build any of the other 5 sites?

J